I am sorry to all that like this product and if I started something by asking about the adaptive nature of the ECU with the SB. But like I clearly marked in Cap letters, I was going off what I had heard and I just asked the question to Blue Max to do a test to see what HIS thoughts were not everyone elses. I asked him to post his findings in a Month or maybe a couple of weeks. I know he switches between Stock and sport a bit. Maybe just leave it on sport for a whil and then do the switch? You know what the difference feels like now but see if it is the same or a bigger difference once it has been on for a while? THIS IS A QUESTION TO BLUEMAX/FATHERDETH OR ANYONE ELSE THE HAS THE SECOND VERSION. iF YOU DON'T HAVE IT AT ALL OR HAVE THE 1ST VERSION THEN KEEP YOUR PIE HOLE SHUT AS WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT!!!

 

I have a RMW tune with a SB on top of it and all I can say is rocket ship.

Opps it a 1st gen SB....shutting my pie hole now.

 

He can, but there are other alternatives out there that can do some tweaking too.

What makes you think I need to try the SB out? I am not debating it's benefit, only that there are other alternatives out there.

You really need to get off the fanboi wagon dude...........

 

OK every tuner says they can tune your car an increase the throttle response but none of them can do it as well as this prodct can and they know this. With a SB you have the ability to remove it (first Gen) or change the setting 2nd Gen. WMW sells them and he tunes cars with Dimsport. Mike @ Mynes recomends them and says they even work better when installed after your car is tuned. I have one on my RMW tuned car and it makes a huge difference in throttle response before or after your car is tuned.

The Mini ECU does not learn it and ignor it later or any crap like that the SB just works. JFC can we all just give it a effen rest already. Buy it and try it if you want or dont buy it but just STFU and stop the nornal NAM forum crybaby BS.

OK I am off of soapbox rant now...you may all continue with the NAM bickering ...carry on....

 

Other alternatives that do not give the same increase in throttle response

Not a fanboi more of a FACTBOI

but it seems that on NAM some just can't handle the facts....

^ Sums it up nicely

 

Ugggggh!!!!! Typical NAM conversations. Well, I turned the SB off on my way home today. Blahhh!!!! Horrible. It will be turned back on tomorrow.

 

Even better proof that the car does not adapt to it!!
Even if it did....the fact you can turn it off, then drive it....would fix THAT problem!!

 

I've sold and installed many selectable Sprint Boosters and the ECU doesn't adapt over or too it. It just speeds up the signal that we the driver input so the ECU just thinks we are doing it faster so it doesn't change. The ECU will change the fuel and timing maps slightly to improve the performance of the engine cause the ECU thinks we are accelerating harder more often. So if any adapting is done it is for the positive for performance.

 

Thanks Waylan

 

Maybe we should call this "the Housewives of MiniVille" 'coz it reads just like the script of those housewife reality shows. In the end most of what's worth reading is on the first page.
btw, I just ordered on of these GenII units from WMW. I'm happy to report what I find here on NAM. And for those of you who think I can't provide an objective report, just go back and read a few of the thousands of my posts over the last 5 years. I might be a PhD, but I ain't no quack.

 

OK, the pressing question, has anyone tried the SB on JustACooper, cause we lag too!

 

Glad to see you come onboard Dr. Phil!!! "This is going to be a chaaaanging day in yer life!!!".

But in all seriousness, mine is staying off until I figure out if my s/c is leaving me. Don't want to add any more stress to it.

 

I just pulled the SB off the MINI today after 2 years and wow what a difference. My new selectable version will be here tomorrow.

 

Sorry to hear about that. I saw a SC lose all its oil and go south in a BIG way. Boy, that's the last thing you want to see.
btw, coz the water pump runs off the SC, when the SC goes, really BAD things can happen to your engine, very quickly (as was the case I referred to above!)

 

Hey Guys,

If you will forgive the newb, I have a couple of questions concerning this product.

Just got my first MINI in January and LOVE it!

Questions:

1.) Does adding the SB impact the warranty in any way?

2.) With the SB installed, does the Sport Button still make as noticeable a difference in performance as it does on the stock MINI? Meaning with the booster if you push the Sport Button, do you get an even greater 'power boost?'

3.) Speaking of the Sport Button; how much should this be used? (I have been tempted to just run it all the time but wasn't sure if it would negatively impact anything other than mileage.)

Sorry for all of the questions, and any advice is certainly appreciated.

Thanks!

 

Thanks Phil, just found out it's not the s/c, but the clutch. A clutch job is in the near future.

 

Welcome. Just to let you know, you posted in the 1st generation threads. While we can help you out and answer some of your questions, but you might get some better info from the second generation section.

I'm sure the SB will help your car, but I'm not sure if the 2nd gens suffer from the throttle delay like some of the first gen cars do. But anything to improve throttle response is a good thing. Don't worry about the warranty. You can pull the SB off in a couple of minutes. Like right before it goes into the shop. And I would think keeping it in sport mode wouldn't cause any concerns. As long as you aren't keeping it in the high rpms all the time.

 

Hey. I'll be ordering one of these soon but I'm wondering what the length of the cable for the mode selection is? The plan would be to run it to my parcel shelf blank button (the one for the driving lights). Is there enough length to get it there and still have it tucked up nicely? Thanks.

 

Thanks for the response Fatherdeth -

Didn't realize I was in the 1st Gen threads... I will post my questions in the 2nd Gen area and see what kind of responses I get.

Not sure if the Gen 2's have improved the throttle delay issue since I have never driven a Gen 1 and have nothing to compare against. I do know that I really like the performance of my MINI much better when the Sport button is on.

BTW - Glad your SC wasn't the issue.

Thanks again!

 

Another option for those thinking about this mod is the velocity unit.
This is what I have on my car



It is similar to the selectable SB unit however you get 4 settings (and off).
Only downside it that it does cost more but you do get more flexibility.

 

Very long. Putting it on the parcel shelf will be no problem for you. As a matter of fact, you'll be wrapping some of the excess cable up and tying it out of the way. I can't remember exactly how long it is, but I'd guess it to be around 4 feet.

 

Yes the cord is plenty long enough to run it up and stick it nicely.

As for Gen 2 cars using it and the sport mode button. I think I've sold more Sprint boosters to Gen two owners than Gen 1 owners. The sport mode button allows you to have 4 more modes.

If you want one let me know.
http://www.waymotorworks.com/sprint-...converter.html

 

As promised, here's installment one of my report on the SprintBooster. This is an initial report, with more to come later.
I ordered it from Way, and received it very quickly. Installed it simply (although I did check on the web how to remove the gas pedal assembly, which is very easy once you know how it is connected.)
There are no instructions with the SB, other than generic ones for any car (remove OEM plug, plug SB in, press GO.) It is not clear to me where the SB module should be placed once the gas pedal assembly is re-installed--there's certainly no obvious place, but I simply put it between the pedal assembly and the central tunnel. It is "jammed" in snuggly and I don't anticipate it coming loose. However if it did, it could get jammed under the gas pedal, so some caution must be used during the install.
As fatherdeth says, the cable for the selector/light is about 4ft long so it can be placed almost anywhere in sight on the dash. I put mine next to my SC temperature gauge down below the switches. There's already lots of idiot lights and led displays down there, so another button/light doesn't make much of a difference.

To the actual unit:
There is NO DOUBT it makes a difference. So for those who think this is snake oil, the evidence is there and the verdict is in: it's not snake oil. It does intercept the signal from the gas pedal (throttle position sensor) and it does convert it to some other value than the original one!

That said, what is the effect? On my car it makes the throttle more even and way more progressive. I have a very modified R53 that's pumping out a lot of HP, but the delivery was somewhat "lumpy" with the stock throttle algorithm. The SB clearly smooths the delivery out, and "accelerates" the delivery. The feeling is a lot like the diagram that you often see associated with the SB--the throttle response ramp is steeper and smoother.

Is it worth $300?--only each customer can assess that. But is it worth 1.5x a bottle of Cristal to me? Easily...

 

Nice write up.

Is it worth $300?--only each customer can assess that. But is it worth 1.5x a bottle of Cristal to me? Easily...

 

Glad you like it Dr Phil. Those who think it is snake oil are just missing out on how this simple mod makes the Mini so much better! As I stated before, one can spend a lot more money on other mods trying to achieve what the SB does and it just cannot replicate it.

Which setting are you using as default, sport or race?