I saw it before on the internet; Does Quaife make a LSD for R56? I have a 2010 MINI S, looking to put one it soon... I know mini-maddness has the OS Giken.. is that any good?

Thanks in Advance!

John

 

OS Giken FTW

 

Quaife doesn't make an ATB for the R56 Cooper S unfortunately. They said they would need 10+ orders and a test mule before they would.

OS Giken looks brilliant however, and James (^^^^) runs one on his car.

 

case closed... NEXT!

 

Quaife make one for the UK spec car:

http://www.lohen.co.uk/shop/products.php?cat=97

Not sure if fits the US model...

 

I have the OS Giken and it is superior to the Quaife. The Giken is 100% lock on acceleration and 50% on braking. I have run 2 track weekend so far with it and have been VERY happy.

 

this is all we use in our race cars

 

Presumably, with 100% lock on acceleration, the EDLC that is programmed into DTC-equipped MINIs would rarely, if ever, intercede.

I would figure the option to disable DSC/DTC is still an advantage however, as it was my understanding that some part of these systems reacted not just to differential wheel speed, but also to the car's slip angle.

Can anyone with a DTC-equipped MINI and the OS Giken confirm/deny/expound?

Also, btwdriver (or anyone else with similar experience), in what circumstances, if any, do the car's stability-type systems still intercede on track?

 

I heavily recommend turning off all nannies while on the track. I for one, don't want an electronic system affecting the vehicles handling. When you are driving the car at it's limit you are continually managing slip and over rotation, the car's electronics will not allow for this.

Also, with the new EDiff, the car is selectively applying the brakes which will cause overheating of your braking system. A mechanical diff like the Giken is heavily preferred over an electronic system.

That is my opinion, YMMV.

 

Right... Maybe I was unclear, but I don't WANT the electronic nannies or EDLC kicking in, especially if I had an aftermarket mechanical LSD.

I was just asking if people who had DTC+OSG LSD ever experienced the EDLC kicking in in track (it is still on, even with all stability control off).

Also, for people who have the OSG LSD, but not DTC (I was under the impression that stability control cannot be completely defeated w/o DTC), do you ever have stability control kick in while on track? How about before the OSG LSD?

 

Sorry, misunderstood. I have a 2007 so I don't have all that fancy Estuff. I do have DSC and when I turn it off, it is completely off. You can slide/spin the car as much as you would like and the computer doesn't do anything to prevent it.

 

Interesting...

I was under the impression that the pre-DTC (DSC equipped) cars were unable to completely disable stability control.

Good to know, though.

Now, the question that remains is if the EDLC ever intercedes on a DTC-equipped car with the OS Giken diff installed?

 

This may be a dumb question, but I have a 2007 MCS that does NOT have an LSD. Can I add an LSD to it without major mods or even having MINI reprogram anything? From what I understand I can add a mechanical LSD without too many problems, is that right?? I really want a LSD for Auto-X!!

 

When you add a mechanical diff, like the OS Giken, you remove whatever stock diff you have. Whether that be a stock limited slip or open diff. So short answer yes you can. It is a fair amount of labor to install the diff, probably 1000-1300 depending on the shop.

 

I'm very curious to know the answer to this question. There is at least one person running the OSG diff on a factory JCW. JamesHunt. Hopefully he'll pipe up with an answer

 

We have one in the Challenge car
works as advertised

 

I'm very interested too, i'm about to decide between a factory JCW or the new 184bhp Cooper S with or without the eDLC(in case it does intercede with a mechanical LSD)

 

Etalj

Had a death in the family that has set my build back a few months.I should be able to give a review of the lsd by mid april/may.

Thanks
JD

 

No rush at all mate. All the best for you and your family.

Monito: Avoid the EDLC like the plague. It is by far the worst thing about my JCW. Don't get me started on how many ways it manages to ruin the driving experience

 

So, is it that bad? I guess i should go for the Cooper S with no EDLC nor LSD(since it's no longer available) and throw in a mechanical LSD later...

 

wish someone could defeat the edlc

 

unplug a wheel speed sensor. The system goes blind. But you give up ABS and get some dash lights as well.

No free lunch here!

Matt

 

Thanks Matt

Who needs ABS anyway

 

very interesting idea