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Old 10-08-2009, 06:48 AM
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Blown Cylinder Head (Formerly "I think my S/C just blew")

I just started my car and a very loud pop rang out followed by sounds no engine should ever make. There was some smoke that seemed to come from the supercharger area, but by the time I got the hood up it had dissapated. Help!
 

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Check your spark plugs...
 
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Check your spark plugs...
Why? To see if they were replaced with C4?
 
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Because you may have blown a plug out of the cylinder head.
 
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Because you may have blown a plug out of the cylinder head.
Holy $$$$ ur right I've never seen that before what's that mean?
 
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It's not good.

This is a common problem. Did you change pluggs reciently? If so, they need careful attention when they're installed - especially Denso. There are some threads on the issue right here on NAM.
 
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Oh good a damaged cylinder head... Even better
 
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Originally Posted by stevecars60
It's not good.

This is a common problem. Did you change pluggs reciently? If so, they need careful attention when they're installed - especially Denso. There are some threads on the issue right here on NAM.
No like 06 they're NGK
 
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A competent shop can install a Heli-Coil or some other brand of thread repair device without removing the head. Check your local club for a good shop in your area. A nusance yes, but not that big or $$$ of a problem.

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What about the dealer
 
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welcome to the club ! my rmw head blew a plug as well. just ask around at shops . most shops should be able to do the job . the mini dealer charges way to much by the hour , i stay away from them at all costs. the bummer i found is when i went to re gap my plugs the heli-coil came out with the plug.
so when the day comes that i need to change plugs , i will need to do a new heli-coil at the same time.
 
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There are inserts available, not heli-coil. I have used these sucessfully for many years. A good mechanic, that has used inserts, can do this repair without removing the head.

This http://www.locknstitch.com/sparkpluginserts.htm is the best info I could find on a quick search.
 
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Originally Posted by RatBlast
welcome to the club ! my rmw head blew a plug as well. just ask around at shops . most shops should be able to do the job . the mini dealer charges way to much by the hour , i stay away from them at all costs. the bummer i found is when i went to re gap my plugs the heli-coil came out with the plug.
so when the day comes that i need to change plugs , i will need to do a new heli-coil at the same time.
I'm pretty sure I was just blamed for this by the Mini techs. Apparantly they don't see many cars as modded as mine. I realize this is St. Louis, but we're talking an air diverter, intake, coil pack, wires, and occ. The rest is purely aesthetic.
 
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Well, St. Louis isn't the Idaho panhandle either. After all St. Louis is the home of some of the best ribb places in the universe.
 
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$4,500
 
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Get an RMW head & have the best people you know put it on.

If you lived close by I could make the repair for less than $400 & back it up for a year, make it 5 years. I'v never had an insert fail, our shifter kart motors, Bow-Tie aluminum SB heads, Porsche & my own Cosworth Mini head.
 
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$4,500


I'd tell them to eat a ****! For that you can get a performance head installed!
 
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Originally Posted by MaxMini81
$4,500
I want some of that crack they're smoking!!
Typical "parts replacers".
There MUST be an Independent BMW/MINI shop in your area.


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Originally Posted by jimz68
I want some of that crack they're smoking!!
Typical "parts replacers".
There MUST be an Independent BMW/MINI shop in your area.


Jim
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It's at least gonna be a JCW head
 
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Just gathering information here, but did you use anti-seize and proper torque spec when you installed the plugs? Re-torqued them after a few thousand miles?
 
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Originally Posted by MaxMini81
It's at least gonna be a JCW head
That's going to cost as much or more than the RMW & not flow even close to what other builders are marketing. It's worth an email to Jan jan@revolutionmini.com or take a look here http://www.thumperheads.com/
 
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I take pretty good care of my car, and yeah it was all done by the book. For the life of me I can't figure out what happened, but it turns out that a JCW head cost the same as replacing the stock head, and while a RMW it's not, it's better than I had so Ill just have to buck up a deal with it.
 
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Originally Posted by MaxMini81
I take pretty good care of my car, and yeah it was all done by the book. For the life of me I can't figure out what happened, but it turns out that a JCW head cost the same as replacing the stock head, and while a RMW it's not, it's better than I had so Ill just have to buck up a deal with it.
Smart move

Sorry this happened to your car
 
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$4,500
Depending on how bad the threads are a KD Back-tap spark plug thread tool may work. I have used it successfully before.

It seems our plugs like it when they are installed in COLD heads at 20-22 Ft/lbs. I check mine every 5000 miles at each oil changed. They have not come loose ever.

Rich
 


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