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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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Hm. turns out theres a stroker for sale in the marketplace.
Yea and it's a steal and a half.

Whoever buys that car is getting a hell of a deal
 
Old Sep 12, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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Does anyone else besides RMW produce a 1.8 or 2.0 stroker for the Mini?
 
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 09:42 AM
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Does anyone else besides RMW produce a 1.8 or 2.0 stroker for the Mini?
Anyone? How about one of any size?
 
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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The guys that build them for RMW do.
But from what I have seen you may want to steer clear.
 
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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Well onasled what have you seen thats warning you to steer clear?
If your so well informed why not share the information to benifit the comunity
or is it as i figure and you dont know anything.
 
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by minimarks
Anyone? How about one of any size?
I heard that another well know USA company may be offering a stoker kit for the mini shortly
 
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by silversmoke06
Well onasled what have you seen thats warning you to steer clear?
If your so well informed why not share the information to benifit the comunity
or is it as i figure and you dont know anything.
Dude, you don't want to go there.

Nothing has been posted because the customer is still working things out with RMW.

BTW, how much for the E30?
 
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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So as of right now, RMW is the only one to research, develop, test, produce and offer one?
 
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by minimarks
So as of right now, RMW is the only one to research, develop, test, produce and offer one?
i'll grant you the "produce" part of the above statement. the "research, develop, test" part is questionable.
 
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 07:07 AM
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i'll grant you the "produce" part of the above statement. the "research, develop, test" part is questionable.
Funny, as I was going to emphasize just the "offer" part of the statement by minimarks.
 
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 08:04 AM
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Don't understand, thought Jan first put a 2.0 in his Mini way back in 2006 and it's still in it.. Sounds a lot like R&D and testing to me....
 
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Originally Posted by minimarks
Don't understand, thought Jan first put a 2.0 in his Mini way back in 2006 and it's still in it.. Sounds a lot like R&D and testing to me....
Might suggest you contact Bean and maybe see if you can talk with his buddy. I believe someone might also have the name of the other RMW stroker owner that was fighting for their money back. Once you talk with them then make your judgment on whether these motors were in fact ready to sell.

I understand you allegiance to RMW, but you also need to open your eyes to what is real and just not what's being voiced to you. That's all, ... just try and be a bit more open minded.
 
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Why was Hubie brought into this??? Again, really, let's get away from this silly "camp" thing. It just becomes an excuss to get off the real topic. No ofence, truly. Just think about it once again.
So, sticking to the topic of strokers, I'm just answering and replying to direct post.
There is a reason that most have not heard of the failures of RMW motors. I now know first hand just why that is, so I when I say "from what I have seen" I mean from what I have seen. Not heard, but seen.
 
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by onasled
Might suggest you contact Bean and maybe see if you can talk with his buddy. I believe someone might also have the name of the other RMW stroker owner that was fighting for their money back. Once you talk with them then make your judgment on whether these motors were in fact ready to sell.

I understand you allegiance to RMW, but you also need to open your eyes to what is real and just not what's being voiced to you. That's all, ... just try and be a bit more open minded.
Getting money back from RMW?

On a serious note, how much is this setup? Why is it a secret?
 

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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by onasled
Why was Hubie brought into this??? Again, really, let's get away from this silly "camp" thing. It just becomes an excuss to get off the real topic. No ofence, truly. Just think about it once again.
So, sticking to the topic of strokers, I'm just answering and replying to direct post.
There is a reason that most have not heard of the failures of RMW motors. I now know first hand just why that is, so I when I say "from what I have seen" I mean from what I have seen. Not heard, but seen.
Reference to Hubie was from respect... Just illustrating that even the best projects experience bumps in the road...

PS: To stay on topic the OP's questions was:
1.8l vs. 2.0 l
i must have missed a thread along the way but just curious; besides .2 l what's the deal ? does the 1.8 take the standard block to the limit? and the 2.0 l is when you gotta sleeve? or is the 1.8 sleevd also but isn.t bored as much to allow for future rebuilds?
 

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so is it less stroke and higher revving for track (1.8l) ? and 2.0 l more for street?
 
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by herbie hind
so is it less stroke and higher revving for track (1.8l) ? and 2.0 l more for street?
way to get back on topic! nice work.

edit: if anyone is interested in my friend Victor's, car. pm me. i'll talk to him and see if he is interested in spelling out the details in a public forum.
 
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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Wow --- this thread is getting very ugly!

How about someone with real world knowledge explaining not only the theoretical, but the functional differences between the 2.0 and 1.8L versions of this engine? Folks can speculate until the cows come home, however, basic facts coupled with actual experience is what's needed.

Thanks,
 
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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My guess would be that with the lower rod angle on the 1.8 there would be less stress on the pistons, rings and cylinder walls making for a longer lasting motor....and you'd still get a nice increase in dwell time! Get some of the bang without maybe the buck....
 
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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I just deleted 31 posts from this thread. This is a good and valid topic, and I think the concerns about engine damage are also valid. However, if you cannot keep it on topic it's going to get closed.

There are many of you that know exactly how to derail a good thread, and do it intentionally for your own "reasons". Don't think that this fact isn't recognized.

SO...back to the original question...

Originally Posted by herbie hind
i must have missed a thread along the way but just curious; besides .2 l what's the deal ? does the 1.8 take the standard block to the limit? and the 2.0 l is when you gotta sleeve? or is the 1.8 sleevd also but isn.t bored as much to allow for future rebuilds?
 
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 04:15 AM
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thx , i dont see an issue with posting specs . anyone that could build a stroker or sleeve an engine could figure it out . me as an enthusiast am just curious as to why rmw is offering two such engines, there must be significant differences to justify the additional work ,and i'd like to know is all . my thought are 1.8l for track (less stroke higher rev) and 2.0l for street (more torque) . i think the project is a good one and think the mini community as a whole could use the shot in the arm this potentially would provide. not just for h.p. but all around public opinion and flexing the mini muscles as it were . lol . let's focus on the project ; give rmw some support with it and the other issues will be resolved i'm sure .
 
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MLPearson79
I just deleted 31 posts from this thread. This is a good and valid topic, and I think the concerns about engine damage are also valid. However, if you cannot keep it on topic it's going to get closed.

There are many of you that know exactly how to derail a good thread, and do it intentionally for your own "reasons". Don't think that this fact isn't recognized.

SO...back to the original question...
I understand and appreciate the thread clean-up.
Though as both offensive and "threatening" it was towards me, I would have liked to have seen the RMW post remain as I believe it is a prime example of why complaints about these 'stroked" motors are not posted on public forums. So, as long as this goes on the readers of this and any forum won't be getting any real facts any time soon I would imagine.
 
Old Sep 15, 2009 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by herbie hind
.... give rmw some support with it and the other issues will be resolved i'm sure .

Contact Bean's friend Victor and see how it is being "resolved". I appreciate your positive input, but unfortunately it's not reality.
 
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Originally Posted by onasled
I understand and appreciate the thread clean-up.
Though as both offensive and "threatening" it was towards me, I would have liked to have seen the RMW post remain as I believe it is a prime example of why complaints about these 'stroked" motors are not posted on public forums. So, as long as this goes on the readers of this and any forum won't be getting any real facts any time soon I would imagine.
And that's fine - however, I think if you are going to have a discussion about this incident you need to provide some facts and evidence of what you are talking about. Without either of these, all you are doing is slinging mud. "Ask so-and-so about his XYZ" is NOT helping people "get any real facts any time soon". It's innuendo and gossipy.

I have NO problem with discussions of this nature if they are FACTUAL and fully disclosed. How does the saying go..."put up, or shut up"...? And if you can't "put up" then the thread gets "shut up", it's that simple.
 



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