Drivetrain R56 custom tuning by RMW
#501
06-20-2009, 06:06 PM
I can't seem to get any numbers worth a damn out of DynoLicious. I also don't have a proper road around me to do it though...
#503
06-20-2009, 08:45 PM
Even with the tune, I have hardly any torque steer, and only get wheel spin when I'm powershifting between gears...and certainly have no wheel hop.
I swear all the R56's are completely different. Some people say the torque steer is horrible in stock form, and others say its non existent. Although more pronounced than my R53 was...I have never felt a torque steer issue in my car. Perhaps cuz it has been lowered since it was new basically, but who knows. As long as the road is flat, I can pretty much floor it with my hands off the steering wheel and it will go straight.
#504
06-21-2009, 08:09 AM
Unfortunately, yes.
Not only do I get wheel hop if I decide to gun it coming out of a corner, but especially in 2nd, the car will literally shoot off the road if I am not "ready" and hold on tight.
Sounds like they really are different. I remember test-driving one in '07 when they came out.... the torque steer was so bad, that at the time I decided to keep my '03 Cooper... at least it didn't try to yank me off the road....
My '09s is better, but you still have to watch.
Not only do I get wheel hop if I decide to gun it coming out of a corner, but especially in 2nd, the car will literally shoot off the road if I am not "ready" and hold on tight.
Sounds like they really are different. I remember test-driving one in '07 when they came out.... the torque steer was so bad, that at the time I decided to keep my '03 Cooper... at least it didn't try to yank me off the road....
My '09s is better, but you still have to watch.
Are u serious??
Even with the tune, I have hardly any torque steer, and only get wheel spin when I'm powershifting between gears...and certainly have no wheel hop.
I swear all the R56's are completely different. Some people say the torque steer is horrible in stock form, and others say its non existent. Although more pronounced than my R53 was...I have never felt a torque steer issue in my car. Perhaps cuz it has been lowered since it was new basically, but who knows. As long as the road is flat, I can pretty much floor it with my hands off the steering wheel and it will go straight.
Even with the tune, I have hardly any torque steer, and only get wheel spin when I'm powershifting between gears...and certainly have no wheel hop.
I swear all the R56's are completely different. Some people say the torque steer is horrible in stock form, and others say its non existent. Although more pronounced than my R53 was...I have never felt a torque steer issue in my car. Perhaps cuz it has been lowered since it was new basically, but who knows. As long as the road is flat, I can pretty much floor it with my hands off the steering wheel and it will go straight.
#505
06-21-2009, 10:51 AM
Unfortunately, yes.
Not only do I get wheel hop if I decide to gun it coming out of a corner, but especially in 2nd, the car will literally shoot off the road if I am not "ready" and hold on tight.
Sounds like they really are different. I remember test-driving one in '07 when they came out.... the torque steer was so bad, that at the time I decided to keep my '03 Cooper... at least it didn't try to yank me off the road....
My '09s is better, but you still have to watch.
Not only do I get wheel hop if I decide to gun it coming out of a corner, but especially in 2nd, the car will literally shoot off the road if I am not "ready" and hold on tight.
Sounds like they really are different. I remember test-driving one in '07 when they came out.... the torque steer was so bad, that at the time I decided to keep my '03 Cooper... at least it didn't try to yank me off the road....
My '09s is better, but you still have to watch.
#507
06-21-2009, 08:15 PM
#508
06-21-2009, 08:24 PM
Yea, in regards to your "flying off the road" when you accelerate hard out of corner.
I can floor it mid-turn and it just pulls the car around through the turn, right where I want to go. Almost like AWD....except not....haha
There's certainly better LSD's than the stock one, but compared to having an open diff like yours...it makes a world of difference.
I can floor it mid-turn and it just pulls the car around through the turn, right where I want to go. Almost like AWD....except not....haha
There's certainly better LSD's than the stock one, but compared to having an open diff like yours...it makes a world of difference.
#510
06-22-2009, 04:41 AM
#511
06-22-2009, 06:38 AM
Originally Posted by btwdriver
For me, the thing that makes the biggest difference was lowering my car and putting on more aggressive suspension. I had horrible torque steer with my stock setup. After the new suspension the torque steer is totally gone.
Yea, in regards to your "flying off the road" when you accelerate hard out of corner.
I can floor it mid-turn and it just pulls the car around through the turn, right where I want to go. Almost like AWD....except not....haha
There's certainly better LSD's than the stock one, but compared to having an open diff like yours...it makes a world of difference.
I can floor it mid-turn and it just pulls the car around through the turn, right where I want to go. Almost like AWD....except not....haha
There's certainly better LSD's than the stock one, but compared to having an open diff like yours...it makes a world of difference.
Ahhhh, so many mods, so little money
#513
06-22-2009, 12:48 PM
#515
06-22-2009, 04:58 PM
Jan,
You would have to come home while I am sitting in Maui, just itching to spend money. I ordered a catted downpipe from Riss, and am looking to get an Helix or Alta intercooler, plus DDM intake. I am assuming I should wait for the tune until I have everything installed. I need to find a dyno in SF valley for base number, before any I install the bolt on upgrades. Then when Jan does his magic I can see how much HP bolt ons really give me or not.
You would have to come home while I am sitting in Maui, just itching to spend money. I ordered a catted downpipe from Riss, and am looking to get an Helix or Alta intercooler, plus DDM intake. I am assuming I should wait for the tune until I have everything installed. I need to find a dyno in SF valley for base number, before any I install the bolt on upgrades. Then when Jan does his magic I can see how much HP bolt ons really give me or not.
#516
06-22-2009, 07:26 PM
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06-23-2009, 07:06 AM
#519
06-23-2009, 07:56 AM
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The RMW custom tuning is looking pretty impressive so far. I have a couple of questions:
I have an otherwise stock 07 R56 MCS with the JCW Stage 1 engine tuning kit. Was there a similar car that got the RMW tuning done on it recently? How much hp and torque gains?
Are there any plans for a tuning day in the southeast region of the country any time soon?
I have an otherwise stock 07 R56 MCS with the JCW Stage 1 engine tuning kit. Was there a similar car that got the RMW tuning done on it recently? How much hp and torque gains?
Are there any plans for a tuning day in the southeast region of the country any time soon?
#520
06-23-2009, 04:03 PM
Paul
p.s. I added a scan of the dyno sheet in my gallery
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#521
06-23-2009, 04:29 PM
I recently had my 07 MCS with JCW stage 1 engine tuning tuned in Louisville by Jan. My base line on the dyno was 191 HP, 200 Ft-Lb Torque; after it was massaged, the dyno showed 207 HP, 230 Ft-lb Torque. The gains may not look like much on paper, but the difference in seat-of-the-pants was definitely noticeable. I am quite happy.
Paul
p.s. I added a scan of the dyno sheet in my gallery
Paul
p.s. I added a scan of the dyno sheet in my gallery
The factory JCW is about 20 over that for HP and torque... which again, is about right because Jan's tune on my JCW left me at 221/250
Guess the results are pretty consistent.
Mark
PS. Your baseline torque was REALLY good for a stage I kit.
#522
06-23-2009, 04:34 PM
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I recently had my 07 MCS with JCW stage 1 engine tuning tuned in Louisville by Jan. My base line on the dyno was 191 HP, 200 Ft-Lb Torque; after it was massaged, the dyno showed 207 HP, 230 Ft-lb Torque. The gains may not look like much on paper, but the difference in seat-of-the-pants was definitely noticeable. I am quite happy.
Paul
p.s. I added a scan of the dyno sheet in my gallery
Paul
p.s. I added a scan of the dyno sheet in my gallery
#524
06-26-2009, 10:55 AM
