It was a joke....

 

Haha I know I know, next week. See though, I have all the proof I could ever want everytime I get in the car and push the gas pedal. Call me selfish

We should have it on there next week!

 

Agreed.... and here we are almost two weeks later and STILL NO DATA...

I have never been on a forum that we can't get results. This is freakin' unbelieveable. No wonder so many people tried the unichip, at least they had something out.

I'm sure two weeks from now, we'll still all be standing around with our thumbs up our azzes and still won't have any results.



Someone call me when this thread has something worth reporting.


Mark

 

You have a factory JCW now, right? Go strap it to a dyno and you will see the same results these guys will when all is said and done. Actually, probably better.

 

I'm just curious as to if you feel that the DDM intake is a worthwhile improvement even after tuning? I have a clubman with a milltek catback and was pondering adding the intake before I get it tuned. Any opinions?

 

Because we are still fine tuning the details and Jan is still uncovering more maps...why would I post something that's not finished? Jan posted a dyno and data way back when he did car #1. No one seems to care about that. He's tuned 4 stock R56's with the same results as that one.


Right....

Hope he likes staring at the *** of my car in a race....beats a factory JCW, no questions asked. Proved that tonight in 104 degree heat in AZ



For all the rest of you kind folks...I can tell you this tune is simply awesome, and Jan has spent endless hours of work on it, and it really shows.

My car will get back on the dyno next week...scheduling and time permitting.

 

I put it on for several reasons.


First, on my JCW Stage I kit on my '08, the dealer installed a JCW CAI. A factory JCW doesn't come with the JCW CAI, it comes with an "S" OEM CAI.

Second, very rarely can I make a mod that I can feel by "seat of your pants". You can definitely notice a difference on a factory JCW.

Third, the reason I went with a DDM is because I installed an M7 strut cross bar. I bought the M7 because you can buy it with strut defenders (to prevent mushrooming of the top of the struts) Point is, if you use the M7, it cuts directly across the CAI so I used a DDM because I was able to modify the box a bit. I could never have modified a JCW CAI to make that work.

Last but not least, I LOVE the sound. You can hear the engine and the pop off valve ALL THE TIME...

Hope that answered your question....



Thumper,

I'm sorry, I wasn't directing that to you specifically. I just haven't seen one JCW tune map. This thread itself is just shy of a month old and in all that time.....still, no dyno sheet. (not just yours, I mean anyones)

Apparently I was under the assumption that Jan already had a basic JCW tune already figured out. I didn't realize that the tuning of the JCW was still in a learning curve mode. (and obviously it is because NO ONE has ever showed a JCW dyno sheet, let alone your car)

Guess I need to just be more patient. (not one of my strong suits )


Is that an "S" or a JCW? I thought it was an "S"....


Last but not least. I am not doubting Jan's ability to tune nor am I doubting that your car as incomplete as it may be isn't terribly faster. I'm sure it is.

I'm just looking for the finished product so I can get one.... glad your happy with what you've got so far, sounds like it's only gonna get better.

 

Well...if it's not finished...
...then how do you know that it is "simply awesome"?


I'm sure everyone will be waiting to see the results.

 

I looked at the first results and thought they were awesome and that makes me want to get the tune alone. I can't speak for others, but i'm personally interested in your results because I want to understand just how much more power can be had by adding the tune to an R56 with intake and exhaust vs adding the tune to a stock R56.

Before I start modding out my R56 I want to understand the $/HP. Jan's tune looks to be the most cost effective way to add more power. People say an exhaust buys you 5-10whp, I wonder if the tune will open up that a bit more.

Anyhow i'm glad you were an "early adopter", just hoping we all get to learn from your experience so the community as a whole has a good knowledge base to pull from. Can't wait to see your data whenever you get back on that dyno

 

It's ok!

Yea, he has tune for the JCW and the ability to tune them. However, as far as I know, he's still only tuned the 1 JCW so far. The tune is done, but Jan is a detail oriented perfectionist ( ) and he won't stop tinkering with it until he's completely satisfied with the results, where as a lot of tuners would just stop right there.


Yea, that dyno is for a stock S. He's done about 4 of them all with very similar gains and results. (I don't think any of the people are on NAM, and if they are, they don't post)

My car is the only one that has had any sort of mods on it, and it did some different things than the stock ones. (Thinkin it can be attributed to the intake and MAF location...). But, with these latest maps, we're golden .

 

ME TOO!

Yes, thats a very wise thing to do...as a lot of people will just buy a bunch of products and throw them on their car. Then they'll wonder where all their money went and why other cars are beating them with less mods

I think this tune is going to be the 'pulley mod' for the R56. (Which was the best bang for your buck mod on the R53)

 

That was the unichip. It had problems but it gave lots of power for relatively cheap. Think of the ecu tune as pulley mod v2.0

 

Any updates on this Thumper?

 

Yea, not going to get to the dyno this week. Jan flew in yesterday and flys back out today for Limerock CT.

He will be tuning 4 R56's there....one being dtsoccer6, so they will probably be posting dynos before I do!

 

I need this freaking tune!! You lucky bass turds!!

 

Fourrr R56's...
3 55's...
2 just a cooper's....

and a JCWUUUUUUUUUUU




(early Xmas gift???)

 

Word on the street...good things a happenin' in Connecticut....

 

Just out of curiousity Thump, where are you on your tune? Obviously it's driveable, is it just a few final tweaks?

Are you driving without any CEL's? Any quirks? or is just Jan being **** and driving to squeeze out what's left?

Mark

 

Orangecrush...The driveability after the RMW tune is true class. In my case, car is 1k rpm quicker, huge amount of torque, and more HP. Driveable is serious understatement. The thing is completely different. The way it moves now compared to stock is astonishing, honestly, I must look foolish with the size of the smile on my face as I hit the pedal. My car pulls like mad in the lower rpms and stays hard through 6500rpm. Writing it in a forum and experiencing the feeling is night and day.

I think patience should be the word of the year. Jan has got a lot of projects he is working on. Trust me when I tell you that these other projects are helping to pay for the RnD and work that goes into the R56. Furthurmore, I'm actually quite impressed with the time he even has for the R56 with everything else on his plate.

Tell you what about CEL's too. I had them with my ALTA DP pretune and now after, gone. No CEL after at least 20 starts today, where before I got it every 11-12 starts. I'll keep everyone posted on this as well.

The engines in these cars are capable of more power then what is posted and what you will see in the CT Jan thread. I think what is key is the turbo and the size. Bore out the turbo, stronger, high flow internals, and your ready to roll out R53 HP numbers. But also, Jan has only just started with the tuning and more maps are to come, maps that are more tweak-able and can really make a difference in the power-band. Also, another thing is cooling. The big IC's are a huge benefit to the R56 just so everyone is aware and if you got one great, you'll boost better, but heatsoak is also a big killer that I noticed when tuning today. The meth kit he is going to offer is top notch...sure to put big, instant gains with low AFR's and as Jan explained, repeatable. Meaning you wont get a 12 AFR reading on one dyno run and then get a 14 the next. It will stay where it is suppose to be...

My .02...IMO, unless you think you want 260whp just to say you have it, the power I got with this tune will benefit me greatly come track day. I mean Jan has it very clearly in his sig, "Making power where it matters...ON THE TRACK." I mean honestly people, we have MINI's, 1.6 litre, 4cyc hatchbacks, not Porsche Cayman S's that come set to get plopped on a track. If you can handle the power you got and learn to drive smart, you can't out perform a Cayman S no problem at all. Yeah I understand people like to drive fast and have fast cars and thats great and I have nothing against that, but for me, my tune will be all that I need come track day. Anything more from Jan would be a welcome bonus, but to walk away today and say I'm not satisfied would make me a moron. The trick is learning now to control this power and become a better driver to utilize it where it matters...

Again, my .02 and what I got out of this incredibly informative day, with fellow MINI enthusiasts and a guy who is truly a genius with the MINI...

Jan, thanks for your insight and help. Also, thanks for taking the time out of your schedule to come to CT and handle business. You had 5 very happy customers to say the least! Looking forward to future returns this summer. Good luck this weekend! Speed Safe!

 

Hey DTSoccer, so are those your final numbers on your sig? How much did you gain? I am asking because I have allot of the same mods you do. I wonder how the tunes compare with the mods. Meaning I wonder who came out with the highest numbers and what mods they had. I am especially curious about the intakes. What style works best, what do you think as someone who has changed intakes a few times.

 

Soccer what did your numbers look like? And what do you mean by 1k faster? RPM limit raised by 1k?

 

Mines done for now, just need to get it on the dyno! There are no CEL's and no quirks that I have noticed, just massive amounts of torque :-).

Jan is still uncovering more maps, but as you can see from the results with the guys today, it's pretty damn good already.

 

Yes, those are my final numbers to date. I gained 4whp, 27wtq over my last dyno. My AFR's are in the 12s now at 17.5psi. I dont think many mods matter too much, but one thing is for sure, the bigger IC's are a must. The highest HP gainer R56 made 213 with a DIY DoS style intake, Tyrolsport IC, and Raggazon exhaust, not sure what DP he had. Other than that...stock brakes and 12lb wheels. He did however have some software done pre RMW tune at Tyrolsport so maybe that played into effect as he was 200whp baseline.

I'll post my sheet in a lil bit after I get all this video and pictures loaded from the day. For your reference and everyone else, my numbers:

Before: 203.9 WHP
After: 208. WHP

Before: 221 WTQ
After: 248 WTQ

Boost: 17.5 PSI

AFR: 12s

By 1k rpm quicker, I reach peak HP 1k quicker.

 

Hey DT I wonder if your hard intercooler piping has to do with your better than most torque numbers?

 

egads... I can't wait to see the numbers on a JCW.... (mine!)