Drivetrain Next step for power?
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Next step for power?
As the title says, I'm looking for some suggestions and info on what my next move could be as far as power is concerned.
I have most of the basic bolt-ons already, but I want to achieve a more sizeable gain. I'd honestly like to put down about 250 Whp, RELIABLY. I'd be more than happy with that. I understand at this stage it's not cheap, but I'm anticipating spending a decent amount of money to do it right.
I'm still sifting through options as I want to do the research and get all the info I need to feel comfortable before I go ahead and dive into it.
So with that said, here are the current specs:
2006 MCSa - 30,000 miles
-16% pulley
-JCW 380 injectors
-DFIC w/ heat coating
-Alta CAI
-OBX Header
-Random Tech. Cat
-Custom exhaust
-RMW Dyno Tune (170 HP, 153 lb-ft TQ)
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-H&R RSS ClubSport Coilovers
-WMS Droplinks
-H-sport Comp Sway bar set (27mm Front & 25.5mm Rear)
-Alta Adj Lower rear control arms
-Front upper Strut Brace
-Rear Upper Strut Brace
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-Polyurethane Engine bushings (Both Lower)
-Poly gearbox bushings
-TSW Engine Damper kit (w/ poly bushings)
That's the gist of the performance mods, so all suggestions are open and welcome!
I have most of the basic bolt-ons already, but I want to achieve a more sizeable gain. I'd honestly like to put down about 250 Whp, RELIABLY. I'd be more than happy with that. I understand at this stage it's not cheap, but I'm anticipating spending a decent amount of money to do it right.
I'm still sifting through options as I want to do the research and get all the info I need to feel comfortable before I go ahead and dive into it.
So with that said, here are the current specs:
2006 MCSa - 30,000 miles
-16% pulley
-JCW 380 injectors
-DFIC w/ heat coating
-Alta CAI
-OBX Header
-Random Tech. Cat
-Custom exhaust
-RMW Dyno Tune (170 HP, 153 lb-ft TQ)
------------------------
-H&R RSS ClubSport Coilovers
-WMS Droplinks
-H-sport Comp Sway bar set (27mm Front & 25.5mm Rear)
-Alta Adj Lower rear control arms
-Front upper Strut Brace
-Rear Upper Strut Brace
------------------------
-Polyurethane Engine bushings (Both Lower)
-Poly gearbox bushings
-TSW Engine Damper kit (w/ poly bushings)
That's the gist of the performance mods, so all suggestions are open and welcome!
Last edited by AstroBlackS; 03-14-2009 at 12:00 PM.
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Thumper Cylinder Head
Newman or Cat Cam
380 or 400cc Injectors
Mynes Performance Custom Tune here...
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...e-ny-tune.html
That should get you closer.
Newman or Cat Cam
380 or 400cc Injectors
Mynes Performance Custom Tune here...
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...e-ny-tune.html
That should get you closer.
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With those mods you have listed i cant see why you only made 170hp
injectors and this will do ya good https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...e-ny-tune.html
injectors and this will do ya good https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...e-ny-tune.html
Last edited by 1FSTMINI; 03-14-2009 at 11:19 AM.
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If you guys want to hold off on your decision to buy until after AMVIV, that would be awesome. We have a couple of cool performance parts coming down the line and we hope to get the testing results and first production units unveiled at AMVIV
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Well, thus far my top 3 paths are:
-Head, Cam, Retune
Reliability: Yes
Power: Questionable
Price: Probably the cheapest route at this point
(my issue with that is mostly because my car appears to be a bit of a weakling in the power dept., so my concern would be that with those mods, I would yield only minimal gains. Probably in the 200 Whp area)
-Twincharge
Reliability: Questionable
Power: Yes
Price: Moderate as far as the field goes
(this is more accurate as far as power goes, mainly because of the numbers this option is capable of producing, 250 Whp appears to be a very realitsic goal when twincharging)
-Turbo Only
Reliability: Yes
Power: Definitely
Price: High
(would be ideal because as far as I am aware, when done right, it is much more reliable than twincharging; Plus, the power potential is far greater, so achieving the 250 Whp will not be an issue. It will also allow me the ability to rather easily increase power over time, if I should choose to do so, as compared to the other options. The price and involvement however is the biggest hurdle, as it is definitely not a cheap route, nor an easy one. I'd need a very capable shop to tackle that kind of project. I'd love to do it myself because it would really give me great insight to the workings of the car, and also allow me to learn a plethora of new things. Unfortunately, I don't have the knowledge, experience, materials, or equipment to tackle it anyway)
-Head, Cam, Retune
Reliability: Yes
Power: Questionable
Price: Probably the cheapest route at this point
(my issue with that is mostly because my car appears to be a bit of a weakling in the power dept., so my concern would be that with those mods, I would yield only minimal gains. Probably in the 200 Whp area)
-Twincharge
Reliability: Questionable
Power: Yes
Price: Moderate as far as the field goes
(this is more accurate as far as power goes, mainly because of the numbers this option is capable of producing, 250 Whp appears to be a very realitsic goal when twincharging)
-Turbo Only
Reliability: Yes
Power: Definitely
Price: High
(would be ideal because as far as I am aware, when done right, it is much more reliable than twincharging; Plus, the power potential is far greater, so achieving the 250 Whp will not be an issue. It will also allow me the ability to rather easily increase power over time, if I should choose to do so, as compared to the other options. The price and involvement however is the biggest hurdle, as it is definitely not a cheap route, nor an easy one. I'd need a very capable shop to tackle that kind of project. I'd love to do it myself because it would really give me great insight to the workings of the car, and also allow me to learn a plethora of new things. Unfortunately, I don't have the knowledge, experience, materials, or equipment to tackle it anyway)
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Astro; let's talk this over in PM... i have some questions and some suggestions for ya Feel free to email me and provide me your phone number; or simply call the shop and get a hold of me and we can discuss in person.
cheers.
mike
cheers.
mike
Well, thus far my top 3 paths are:
-Head, Cam, Retune
Reliability: Yes
Power: Questionable
Price: Probably the cheapest route at this point
(my issue with that is mostly because my car appears to be a bit of a weakling in the power dept., so my concern would be that with those mods, I would yield only minimal gains. Probably in the 200 Whp area)
-Twincharge
Reliability: Questionable
Power: Yes
Price: Moderate as far as the field goes
(this is more accurate as far as power goes, mainly because of the numbers this option is capable of producing, 250 Whp appears to be a very realitsic goal when twincharging)
-Turbo Only
Reliability: Yes
Power: Definitely
Price: High
(would be ideal because as far as I am aware, when done right, it is much more reliable than twincharging; Plus, the power potential is far greater, so achieving the 250 Whp will not be an issue. It will also allow me the ability to rather easily increase power over time, if I should choose to do so, as compared to the other options. The price and involvement however is the biggest hurdle, as it is definitely not a cheap route, nor an easy one. I'd need a very capable shop to tackle that kind of project. I'd love to do it myself because it would really give me great insight to the workings of the car, and also allow me to learn a plethora of new things. Unfortunately, I don't have the knowledge, experience, materials, or equipment to tackle it anyway)
-Head, Cam, Retune
Reliability: Yes
Power: Questionable
Price: Probably the cheapest route at this point
(my issue with that is mostly because my car appears to be a bit of a weakling in the power dept., so my concern would be that with those mods, I would yield only minimal gains. Probably in the 200 Whp area)
-Twincharge
Reliability: Questionable
Power: Yes
Price: Moderate as far as the field goes
(this is more accurate as far as power goes, mainly because of the numbers this option is capable of producing, 250 Whp appears to be a very realitsic goal when twincharging)
-Turbo Only
Reliability: Yes
Power: Definitely
Price: High
(would be ideal because as far as I am aware, when done right, it is much more reliable than twincharging; Plus, the power potential is far greater, so achieving the 250 Whp will not be an issue. It will also allow me the ability to rather easily increase power over time, if I should choose to do so, as compared to the other options. The price and involvement however is the biggest hurdle, as it is definitely not a cheap route, nor an easy one. I'd need a very capable shop to tackle that kind of project. I'd love to do it myself because it would really give me great insight to the workings of the car, and also allow me to learn a plethora of new things. Unfortunately, I don't have the knowledge, experience, materials, or equipment to tackle it anyway)
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Was your tune done on the dyno in CT or Ma last year? If so wasn't that dyno low on all cars at Jan's tune. OBX header isn't a power maker. Give Jan a call. Here's another option for you.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post2699689
Was your tune done on the dyno in CT or Ma last year? If so wasn't that dyno low on all cars at Jan's tune. OBX header isn't a power maker. Give Jan a call. Here's another option for you.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post2699689
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i was at the tune last year in CT. dont blame the dyno b/c im def not.
Best way to go in my eyes as my eyes seen the BS already
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...e-ny-tune.html
Best way to go in my eyes as my eyes seen the BS already
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...e-ny-tune.html
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I went to the one in Canton, CT at Bishop Motorpsorts.
I remember 1FSTMINI's mini. We were there the same day. Very nicely put together . I didn't stay long enough to watch your pull though, but I heard about the numbers that night on nemini.
I remember 1FSTMINI's mini. We were there the same day. Very nicely put together . I didn't stay long enough to watch your pull though, but I heard about the numbers that night on nemini.
Last edited by AstroBlackS; 03-15-2009 at 04:27 PM.
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dats too bad Astro....mine did 223BHP without a tune (just basic bolt on mods - see sig).
Im going for he following over the next few months:
Thumper's TPR-2 Head
Larger Injectors (dont know which one yet)
Water/Meth Injection (Alky/Snow/Aquamist/Devil's Own)
Remote Tune (RMW/1320/Mynes)
hoping to get to the 260-280BHP mark
Im going for he following over the next few months:
Thumper's TPR-2 Head
Larger Injectors (dont know which one yet)
Water/Meth Injection (Alky/Snow/Aquamist/Devil's Own)
Remote Tune (RMW/1320/Mynes)
hoping to get to the 260-280BHP mark
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Guys I have just about all the mods they are and I can only get 200WHP. The problem is you don't real no haow much WHP you ahve because it's an automatic. It shifts to early. Mine up shifts at 6600 rpms ( on A dyno ). On the street it gos a little higher ( almost 7k ). I've been looking every where for an answer. but as of yet none to be found. I had the JCW upgrade for the auto done and that works better , but still not enough rpms. It looks like to get more than 200WHP you need more than 7K in rpms. at least in the automatic
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car made that TQ at 4800rpms i believe and 211whp just shy of redline b/c the car was leaning out with 400cc injectors.
ill have to find the sheet to be sure as it was almost 1 yr ago since the car was dyno'd. since then ive removed RMW's tune as it was fckin up my car but i rather not get into that subject
ill have to find the sheet to be sure as it was almost 1 yr ago since the car was dyno'd. since then ive removed RMW's tune as it was fckin up my car but i rather not get into that subject
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