I have been following all the threads about replacing the air cleaner (1st thing i did) hood scoops etc and wondered why no-one has come up the idea of finding a way to cool the intercooler -except by spraying it with water or something.

my idea is to make an 'exhaust' scoop from the back of the intercooler so that air can flow over the heat sink and get it cooled down quickly. I realize this means body work but I can't see the other flaws. The air channel would have to sealed from the engine compartment and I was thinking either a NASCAR duct or even a louvered section like an old bonnet would work.

I would love to hear from anyone who KNOWS why this would or wouldn't work or anyone who could make such a modification

 

Good idea, but the intercooler is like a radiator, air has to pass through it not just over it. but a redesign would not be bad.

 

If I remember correctly some company in Europe I believe crafted a scoop that allows more air to enter...reducing intercooler temps, and adding HP...I forget the name of the comapny...I will poat again if I find anything...

 

The company is BBR...Here is a pic of the scoop...

 

Ummm ...

How about, this?

 

Hmmm...I think I might like that last pic...if that scoop was functional - meaning it added quite a bit of HP!

 

It's got a bigger "hole" !
Should grab more fresh, for sure.
Lookes a hell of a lot better than the other one.
"Yikers", that one's a dog. ::ruff::ruff::

 

 

Where can I get a bonnet like this?! Me like it!

 

>>Good idea, but the intercooler is like a radiator, air has to pass through it not just over it. but a redesign would not be bad.
Are you sure you are correct. The intercooler seems to sit on top with nowhere for air to go. I havn't pulled it off so I don't know what is on the underside. A passageway into the engine compartment? If that were the case you would be putting hot air into a hot engine bay. Seems like a poor design.

 

>>Ummm ...
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>>How about, this?
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This is not my taste nor my idea.

I was thinking an exit hole closer to the windshield than the current hole so air would flow straight over the intercooler and back outside.

 

I like the kit as well. Looks like it has good airflow below as well as above for the scoop. If anyone can pass along the manufacturers info. Can't read it in the pictures shown.

 

Esquiss Auto
http://www.esquiss.fr/esquiss/v1/esquiss.htm

 

excuse me, but that looks like Shrek's nose... not going on my MCS.
I was wanting to find a way to cool the engine compartment too.. Since I my MCS won't be here for another month, my thoughts are all in theory.

We used to use ducting to draw cooler air from behind the wheels or under the car up.

I like the idea of drawing air from the deck at the base of the front window too. Has anyone seem the aerodynamic air flow designs on the MINI? Granted this car is not what one would call aero...but atleast these would show where the largest amount of air is collecting and maybe someone could figure out how to route ducting to collect this into the engine compartment.

what do you say?

 

Gordon,

I totally understand what you're on about.

I had an idea that would require a new/modified hood but would be similar to what you're thinking. I was thinking about getting rid of the the hood scoop and replacing it with a vent above the intercooler. To make this worka shroud would be made such that air would flow from the front of the car, through the grille, through the intercooler and out the vent on the top of the hood.

Does that make sense?

 

Its too bad someone couldn't design a front mount air-2-air IC. The flow dynamics would be much better than our factory IC sitting on top of the enginge! I like the water-2-air IC that Randy Webb has, but the air-2-air system has a much greater recovery rate and potentially more cooling capablities (especially in hot weather) than the water-2-air.

 

>>Gordon,
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>>I totally understand what you're on about.
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>>I had an idea that would require a new/modified hood but would be similar to what you're thinking. I was thinking about getting rid of the the hood scoop and replacing it with a vent above the intercooler. To make this worka shroud would be made such that air would flow from the front of the car, through the grille, through the intercooler and out the vent on the top of the hood.
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>>Does that make sense?

Yes that's the type of thing I was thinking - know any good matal benders or even carbon fibre shops?

Are you goint to Mosport for the 25/26? if so which car are you taking?

 

>>:smile:

 

GordonD, as you can see from these posts, your idea is not new. Randy at webb motor sports has been working on perfecting a water to air intercooler for several months now. Plus PWR, a radiator and intercooler manufacturer has a larger model already availalbe for the Cooper S, though I think the price is somewhere around $800. There is also the BBR air deflector that has been out for several months.
Use the search function and you will find other threads that relate to the water to air IC and the hood scoop.
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>>Are you goint to Mosport for the 25/26? if so which car are you taking?
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Yes, I'll be there most likely in the M3. I will also be going to Shannonville on the 19th but that will be with the MCS. Are you coming out on the 19th?

Kev
Looking to play a little "cat and mouse"

 

>>GordonD, as you can see from these posts, your idea is not new. Randy at webb motor sports has been working on perfecting a water to air intercooler for several months now. Plus PWR, a radiator and intercooler manufacturer has a larger model already availalbe for the Cooper S, though I think the price is somewhere around $800. There is also the BBR air deflector that has been out for several months.
>>Use the search function and you will find other threads that relate to the water to air IC and the hood scoop.
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I think you're missing the point. The point is not to add water and possible pounds to the front end of the car but to redesign flow to the factory equipment. Again, I'm guessing that this thread is here for meaningful conversation and information exchange, rather than simply looking for a "bolt-on" mod.

Short of water-jacketing our stock IC or replacing it with a bigger core, there must be a cost effective way making the stock one work "better".

I hope that wasn't harsh. It wasn't intended to be and I'm sorry if it comes off that way.

 

>>>>GordonD, as you can see from these posts, your idea is not new. Randy at webb motor sports has been working on perfecting a water to air intercooler for several months now. Plus PWR, a radiator and intercooler manufacturer has a larger model already availalbe for the Cooper S, though I think the price is somewhere around $800. There is also the BBR air deflector that has been out for several months.
>>>>Use the search function and you will find other threads that relate to the water to air IC and the hood scoop.
>>>>
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>>I think you're missing the point. The point is not to add water and possible pounds to the front end of the car but to redesign flow to the factory equipment. Again, I'm guessing that this thread is here for meaningful conversation and information exchange, rather than simply looking for a "bolt-on" mod.
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Kevin - your the only one who undrstands me. Must be a Canadian thing.

Yes I am doing Shannonville on the 19th. be gentle with me.
>>Short of water-jacketing our stock IC or replacing it with a bigger core, there must be a cost effective way making the stock one work "better".
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>>I hope that wasn't harsh. It wasn't intended to be and I'm sorry if it comes off that way.

 

Whatever became of this concept?

 

>>>>Ummm ...
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>>>>How about, this?
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>>This is not my taste nor my idea.
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>>I was thinking an exit hole closer to the windshield than the current hole so air would flow straight over the intercooler and back outside.



Looks like this MINI's daddy bashed him in the face with a shovel.

 

Making the intercooler bigger is not the answer of getting more horse power, because bigger intercooler means bigger preasure loss... you have to had a proper size of intercooler...
I am pretty sure that the intercooler in the picture has a lot more to do with it... (eq make more boost or bigger supercharger)

daniel-