I, too, am skeptical. 2001 M5 is rated at 4.8 seconds to 60mph.

I mean, if it is indeed true, it would be exciting as I could not wait to get my hands on a good ECU tune, but 4.8 is extremely fast for our cars with simple bolt-ons.

Not to sound mean, but are you sure they were racing you? I've seen some silly videos on YouTube that claim they were racing when it is obvious they aren't. It could be the tires, however... crap tires will take a good second off of your time, or more, if you're cheap.

Can't wait to see your times!

 

I understand completely, The M5 and me got into a race for the freeway coming from a two lane onramp. I was expecting to get killed for sure. I dont know there could have been any number of issues with the car? He shut down and stopped racing early, I think because I was right with him. It wasnt on a drag strip or anything. He could have been a terrible driver?

Dont forget though, Torque wins races not HP. And these little cars have a ton of torque, especialy with all the add ons.

I am also excited to see the numbers on this car.
I think what happens is allot of people think its going to be an easy race, if you dont give my Mini credit Im going to beat you, unless you have a REALLY FAST car. I have been dying to find an evo or sti to race.

 

you're full of crap.

either that, or no one who you think was "racing" you was actually racing you.

The majority of people who drive M5's, G35 coupes and brand new porsche's aren't going out and picking races with a mini cooper.

you need to calm down, and stop abusing your parent's mini.

 

Nice, i was waiting for someone immature to come and start mouthing off. I will remove myself from the conversation. But before I do. I am not a kid, I dont street race. But if Im lined up at a light next to someone who is interested I am going to do my best. Thats why I bought my car and spent all the money to fix it up. How about this, save up some money from your paper route, fix your car up and then instead of starting with insults you can experience it yourself. I already stated that these are true stories. I honestly dont care if you believe me. I was trying to let the OP know he can have a fast mini. Our cars are not fast because of the 210Hp its the 260fp of torque that make them fast. Oh and my buddies drive M5's and porsches and I have had 2 porsches myself and my last car was a 2007 Jaguar xk8 conv, and we take off full speed from a stop light if the road can handle it.

Your right they where not picking races, I think most of them where showing off at how fast their cars are, and how much they where going to leave me in the dust and thats the funny part. When they think they are going to kill you and they dont.

But thanks for the respectful and informative post.

 

chakraj,,, calm down and relax. You already helped me a lot. Really. As you said, your purpose of posting was to help me and you did. So thank you. I just got tons of info from this site and I learned a lot from some of you guys who try to help people. I definitely appreciate it.

Recently, I'm still considering the CAI. I can't decide which one with alta and ddm. Is a foam filter that good? I know k&n filters are cool but some insist foams are better for a CAI. I need help for this.

 

you're welcome.

but seriously, I don't care how old you are.

you have a problem.

I don't know if you realize it, but 95% of the people who you go speeding off in front of at a traffic light look at you and think you're immature and irresponsible. The other 5% are either under 20, or are just as immature as you.

so grow up, and save it for the track.

 

i understand the mini can be fast, I wouldn't have bought one otherwise... but there is no way in hell you're outrunning a real M5 with your mods. 500hp, 500lb torque will smoke your mini if he had even thought about trying to race you. maybe it was a rebaged 528i.

And you know nothing about me, the mods my car has, or my "paper route." All I know about you is that you have an inferiority complex.

 

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It probably dosen't matter that much which you pick. My only suggestion is to also remove the hood scoop grill to let some air in.

 

and to the OP, the reason I came in this thread in the first place, I can't read through all of these posts because of the intermittent splooging of testosterone, but I think you've got a great plan.

I'd wait for the new tuner coming out from Alta. It's supposed to be like the Cobb Accessport is for subies. It's a plug and play device that will probably allow you to change fuel maps on the fly, so you don't always have to drive around wasting all of your gas. It'd be convienient for a car that has multiple drivers. Plus, it'll read your OBDII codes and probably display some vitals, but I'm not sure about that...

Intake, Exhaust, Tune.

You mentioned having 17's.... the factory 17's are pretty darn heavy. I might look into getting a lighter set and ditching the run-flats. It won't make too much of a difference, but every bit helps.

 

I think the hood scoop grill should already be open on 2008 and 2009 MCS.

I think the more interesting choice should be between RAM air CAIs (Forge, DOF, JCW) and open CAIs (NM Engineering, DDM, Alta). Just a thought.

 

^ I think that if the eventual goal is to get a bigger, higher flow intercooler, a ram air intake wouldn't add much...

 

dwf - yeah you're right. I'm considering changing wheels but it requires hella a lot of money for me. However, I'm saving money for them so someday I'll change them. For now, I'm trying like cheaper and the-most-bang-for-money things like a sway bar and an ecu tuning. You said there's an ecu tuning from subie's experts, right? Right now, I'm waiting the ecu tuning from rmw.(jan told me it would take a month.) I will spend money for it first and, later, wheels for sure.

terryD, slinger - I just checked my car(2008) and my hood scoop is partially opened. I think Adam said I didn't have to remove if it's partially opened since results are same with the removed scoop and partially opened scoop.
Adam wrote,

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...rks-cai-2.html

terryD - btw, I just ordered 22mm sway bar from mini-madness. As you advised, I will try the softest setup first instead going mid first.(I'm supposed to post this on the suspension section. lol. I will do this again there.)

 

Sorry, I know this has nothing to do with the OP, but I just thought I'd add as an FYI that in the 997 the Tiptronic is actually quicker than the manual. Kind of sad and remarkable at the same time. Technology is an amazing thing.

 

I don't really think the after-market intakes do much good. These cars just don't need much more air than the stock unit can deliver unless you're adding major power and that's just not available yet. Sure, by themselves they can put out some nice numbers on a dyno (above 5.5K RPM only), but as soon as you open up the exhaust, the benefit of the intake vanishes. I'm not sure why this is the case. If you do modify the intake, make sure it's getting cold air. I really don't believe an open filter behind the engine is getting cold air, no matter how open the scoop is. A high flow filter for the intake is definitely a good idea as well or you can get the JCW intake by itself, I think from 1fastmini.net, and it should provide some benefit with the least noise and still keeping the intake air temperatures low. a custom 2.5" exhaust that deletes the second cat will give you more power without the lag that wide open turboback's get, or the CEL's either. You can buy the Miltek kit from Mini Madness but some have complained it's loud and drones. It would be much cheaper to get a custom one done by a local exhaust shop and they can probably supply a resonator and muffler that flows much better than stock and isn't really loud. I think the turbo inlet hose and cold side boost tube's are also unnecessary to replace, but the muffler in the hot side boost tube should be yanked. The sound generator on the cold side boost tube should be yanked and plugged as well. If you're ready for the ECU, an intercooler will probably become more useful with the higher boost levels. Mini Madness sells the Evotech tune. It's the only one I haven't heard bad things about but it's canned so if you can get to RMW when he's ready, that will probably net you better performance for your dollar.

It's well known the MINI auto transmission is not designed for much more power than stock.

Contrary to everything so far in this thread, including my own post so far, the biggest and best upgrade you can give the car is taking performance driving courses. BMWCCA has great programs for this. I can't stress the value and enjoyment you'll get out of it. It goes way beyond what you can get out of a tune and an exhaust

 

The item will be from Alta, not Cobb who makes the ones for subies...

I believe Perrin and Alta are the same company, and Perrin is huge in the subie world, so they're probably just trying to bring the same game to the mini world, since they see a demand for it, and very little supply. thanks guys..

Anyway, if it's similar to the Cobb Accessport, it will enable you to change to one of many different fuel maps. You can have one set up for the track, one for spirited driving, one for long trips, etc. Companies like Perrin(or alta for the mini world) put together fuel maps depending on what upgrades you have. You just go onto their site, download the new fuel map, and bang, you should be running a very good map for your car. Take it to a tuner, and they might be able to tweak it even more.

It's a very powerful device, I can't wait for it to be released...

check out the end of this thread, they're replacing the uni-chip with this.: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...a-unichip.html

 

I hope eventually the op will get to expeience the car in a controlled track environment. He is so close to my favorite US track, Laguna Seca.

 

FYI, Chakraj may be correct on this. PDK is faster than manual on 997 II(2009+). Tiptronic s is generally slower and is being phased out.

 

Ecu reflash...would void my warranty right quick???

 

Right quick indeed.... you can pretty much say byebye to your Drivetrain Warranty.

 

Not necessarily.

 

Hold up, you bought a MINI so you can smoke people at stoplights??

 

Well, you'd have to make sure you get rid of the flash when you go to the dealer. I'd assume the ECU, if caught, would void the whole (EDIT: DRIVETRAIN) warranty as it modifies pretty much every aspect of the vehicle's driveability.

 

i have no experience with this, but i would not be surprised, based on the way the stealerships operate, that they would void the warranty in a heartbeat. Its an extremely easy way for them to put the blame on you.

 

No its just one of the perks

 

That's what I was saying... get caught with an ECU, they can legally say it caused engine failure, since the ECU controls everything about the engine. You'd have no case.