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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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You're absolutely right. But as of October 23rd 2008, I was officially granted the right adress you as my fellow citizen

now you can start to pretend being British like the rest of the koolaid drinkers on NAM. I guess being ''American" isn't good enough for some
 
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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uhh, what was this thread about again?
 
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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Being an American and the way it relates to plugging unrelated products as combined with shifting a manual transmission without lifting off the throttle.

Keep up.
 
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 09:36 AM
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say wuh


anyways. I think this will be a good mod for the people who drag race to the ones who just "spirit drive" their cars around.

id like more input on this.....And also since someone mentioned this was done on their car through the flash, why couldnt that be done for us???
 
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMINI
And also since someone mentioned this was done on their car through the flash, why couldnt that be done for us???
it CAN, it HAS, it's just that some tuners actually do custom tuning and some SAY they do custom tuning.... it's what separates a tuner from a guy with a laptop - tuners actually spend money on software and custom tune for each vehicle, a guy with a laptop buys pre-tuned maps and installs them on unsuspecting MINI owners' cars so they THINK they are getting custom tuning......

how sad.... or smart? i can't decide, as a business owner myself, it's definitely SMART, but sad that the community hasn't seen the truth for themselves.... oh well, who am i to enlighten the followers?
 
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by FastLaneTuning
it CAN, it HAS, it's just that some tuners actually do custom tuning and some SAY they do custom tuning.... it's what separates a tuner from a guy with a laptop - tuners actually spend money on software and custom tune for each vehicle, a guy with a laptop buys pre-tuned maps and installs them on unsuspecting MINI owners' cars so they THINK they are getting custom tuning......

how sad.... or smart? i can't decide, as a business owner myself, it's definitely SMART, but sad that the community hasn't seen the truth for themselves.... oh well, who am i to enlighten the followers?

you obviously don't know a thing about how dimsport works
when you are this clueless, it's probably best to keep your mouth shut
 
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 07:01 AM
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no, i'm pretty well versed.... but thanks for proving my point about certain "tuners"!
 
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Originally Posted by FastLaneTuning
no, i'm pretty well versed.... but thanks for proving my point about certain "tuners"!

actually you have no clue
 
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 07:17 AM
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no, i'm pretty well versed.... but thanks for proving my point about certain "tuners"!
does that mean you're a Dimsport tuner as well?
 
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by FastLaneTuning
you know it! replacing the clutch (AGAIN, pissed off with UUC right now, but that's another story altogether) and should be back on the road soon.....



wow cool, i wonder what mine would do WITH an aftermarket head and cam then! also, i'm doing the tinkering on my own car, not my wife's.............. forgot to mention - my dyno sheets were made from a MUSTANG dyno, not a Dynapack which is the equivalent of picking the wheels off the ground and seeing how much power it makes without contact, definitely NOT giving you real world HP numbers, but hey, if a number is what your after, then that's a BIG number, guy!



no no, i meant a REAL TUNER, not a businessman impersonating one - someone who has done this as a career, not a hobby.... just as one of the presidential candidates has a messiah-like presence about him, so is your beloved tuner looked upon in the world OUTSIDE of NAM......... but what do i know, i've just been doing this professionally for 7 years now and know marketing BS when i see it!



this forum will never change! love it.....
 
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 09:08 AM
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here's a question. why does one tuner on the side of the country care what the other guy can or cant do. worry about yourself. and for being a "tuner" and making only 249whp, do you really think that car is fast with all that junk in the trunk. im sorry to say but making all that power to only weigh the car down more was pointless IMO. there's always gotta be one ******* out there to pop his head up. And please. dont come at me with the tough guy talk like you did to that the other guy you put down. Im DEF not that guy.
 
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looks to me like someone should spend a bit more time on webdev instead of picking fights here
 
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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I have no stake in this fight, but I thought I would throw out an observation for s***s and giggles. I've not had Jan do a tune on my car, but I have been present while he was doing his thing. Yes he sits there with his laptop, but by no means does it look like he just plugs pre-built maps in as FastLaneTuning has suggested. Run the car, check the chart, make adjustment on the laptop, repeat, repeat, repeat until the chart looks the best it can. If that's not a custom tune, than I'm not exactly sure what is.
 
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such a wonderful forum.........

RMW - actually, i know that you BUY your maps and don't do the custom tuning you speak of.... my tuner started with Dimsport and saw that it wasn't going to work for all the settings he wanted to change, and therefore moved on to REAL software, software that pulled almost 10 times the amount of data from the ECU image, making custom tuning just that much easier...... i've discussed this in other threads, have a look back if you like, you had great things to say about your competition back then as you seem to want to do right now, unfortunately, it doesn't fly considering i know enough about your business and "tuning" to know that you just don't have the capability to discuss the details of what it means to truly custom tune a vehicle as my tuners do day in and day out..... but thanks for telling me what i do and do not know, its obvious that trick works with your customers!

1FSTMINI (not the 1FastMINI i know) - it doesn't matter to me, its not my business that is in question.... i commend Jan for having the know-how to start up a business tuning MINIs knowing the state of mind of 99% of MINI owners! it really is smart, honestly without any sarcasm or BS, i really believe that and have said that to many others, including my tuners, in an effort to get them involved with doing the same thing, and they've begun walking down that path with me as the test subject....

didn't you JUST say "worry about yourself" when you started tearing into my car? try worrying about YOUR car and why you need new injectors instead..... why did i put a system in my car and "only" have 249whp? because i'm me and you're you! do i think my car is fast? GOD yes, considering i've nicknamed it S CAR G0 (snail) and put that name on both sides of the car, it's the fastest snail i've ever seen................ it's clear you have been tuned by Jan because you obtained his mind-reading powers as well when you ASSUMED that i've weighed my car down so much by adding everything i did, as you know the before and after weight of MY car! aaaaaaaamazing!

look, the point i've been trying to make --- while that's great everyone enjoys visiting my site and seeing my mods then coming on here and bashing me for the most humorous reasons --- is that there is software available to have the ECU programmed with launch control and no-lift shifting, some tuners are fortunate to use that software and some just like to pretend to be leaders in their field..... i don't understand what is so difficult to comprehend about that!
 
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by FastLaneTuning
it CAN, it HAS, it's just that some tuners actually do custom tuning and some SAY they do custom tuning.... it's what separates a tuner from a guy with a laptop - tuners actually spend money on software and custom tune for each vehicle, a guy with a laptop buys pre-tuned maps and installs them on unsuspecting MINI owners' cars so they THINK they are getting custom tuning......

how sad.... or smart? i can't decide, as a business owner myself, it's definitely SMART, but sad that the community hasn't seen the truth for themselves.... oh well, who am i to enlighten the followers?
Originally Posted by Jason C
I have no stake in this fight, but I thought I would throw out an observation for s***s and giggles. I've not had Jan do a tune on my car, but I have been present while he was doing his thing. Yes he sits there with his laptop, but by no means does it look like he just plugs pre-built maps in as FastLaneTuning has suggested. Run the car, check the chart, make adjustment on the laptop, repeat, repeat, repeat until the chart looks the best it can. If that's not a custom tune, than I'm not exactly sure what is.
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such a wonderful forum.........

RMW - actually, i know that you BUY your maps and don't do the custom tuning you speak of.... my tuner started with Dimsport and saw that it wasn't going to work for all the settings he wanted to change, and therefore moved on to REAL software, software that pulled almost 10 times the amount of data from the ECU image, making custom tuning just that much easier...... i've discussed this in other threads, have a look back if you like, you had great things to say about your competition back then as you seem to want to do right now, unfortunately, it doesn't fly considering i know enough about your business and "tuning" to know that you just don't have the capability to discuss the details of what it means to truly custom tune a vehicle as my tuners do day in and day out..... but thanks for telling me what i do and do not know, its obvious that trick works with your customers!

1FSTMINI (not the 1FastMINI i know) - it doesn't matter to me, its not my business that is in question.... i commend Jan for having the know-how to start up a business tuning MINIs knowing the state of mind of 99% of MINI owners! it really is smart, honestly without any sarcasm or BS, i really believe that and have said that to many others, including my tuners, in an effort to get them involved with doing the same thing, and they've begun walking down that path with me as the test subject....

didn't you JUST say "worry about yourself" when you started tearing into my car? try worrying about YOUR car and why you need new injectors instead..... why did i put a system in my car and "only" have 249whp? because i'm me and you're you! do i think my car is fast? GOD yes, considering i've nicknamed it S CAR G0 (snail) and put that name on both sides of the car, it's the fastest snail i've ever seen................ it's clear you have been tuned by Jan because you obtained his mind-reading powers as well when you ASSUMED that i've weighed my car down so much by adding everything i did, as you know the before and after weight of MY car! aaaaaaaamazing!

look, the point i've been trying to make --- while that's great everyone enjoys visiting my site and seeing my mods then coming on here and bashing me for the most humorous reasons --- is that there is software available to have the ECU programmed with launch control and no-lift shifting, some tuners are fortunate to use that software and some just like to pretend to be leaders in their field..... i don't understand what is so difficult to comprehend about that!
quoted for posterity.... lawyers love these posts

think about this for a second, I know I am asking a lot from you

who here has ever tuned a M62 before me?
A Rotrex before me?
A turbo on the R53 with the stock ecu before me?

where did I buy those maps? ROFLMAO
 
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 10:43 AM
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where did I buy those maps? ROFLMAO
as i was philosophizing with another member of the MINI-aftermarket community yesterday, i'm sure you have the understanding to create new maps from adapted versions of the purchased maps, anyone who has done what you've done for as long as you have should be able to do at least that much........ i hope i'm not coming off as a hater on this forum, that was not my point at all - like i said, i admire that you had the business-knowledge to get in when you did and move on to start your own thing

enjoy your forum, i've said my point, i'm not going to get very far on here anyways....

now about the LAWYERS bit, that made me ROFLMAO!
 
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ATTN: Jan/RMW

It seems that you are a poser. Please remove your tune from my cars.

 
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ATTN: Jan/RMW

It seems that you are a poser. Please remove your tune from my cars.

hahaha I second this because what I have clearly Jan you do is actually an optical illusion and since ive heard and seen so much of this other guys work and only hear him bashing Jan that i think it is only right to get a tune...oops i mean toon...whatever that is
 

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why do i need bigger injectors? hmmm....b/c just like your car, they werent large enough to flow especially to redline with 16psi+.

question really is.....how do you say your a "Professional tuner" when you had someone else tuning your car. and maybe its me, but your numbers seem a lil high for no internals. maybe you didnt update that huge "look at me" mod list.
 
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Originally Posted by FastLaneTuning
i've just been doing this professionally for 7 years now and know marketing BS when i see it!
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my tuner started with Dimsport and saw that it wasn't going to work for all the settings he wanted to change, and therefore moved on to REAL software, software that pulled almost 10 times the amount of data from the ECU image
Originally Posted by FastLaneTuning
i know enough about your business and "tuning" to know that you just don't have the capability to discuss the details of what it means to truly custom tune a vehicle as my tuners do day in and day out.....
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its not my business that is in question....
Actually, it is, much in the same way you've put others in the crosshairs. You've referred to 'my tuner(s)' - those in your employ or those you've hired? You say you run a tuning business....yet, you are not a vendor here and not a single website linked in your profile is active. You tout several previous businesses...usually, successful ones don't change year after year - one can deduce from your webpage(s) that you've failed at many different things.

Originally Posted by FastLaneTuning
is that there is software available to have the ECU programmed with launch control and no-lift shifting, some tuners are fortunate to use that software and some just like to pretend to be leaders in their field.....
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i don't understand what is so difficult to comprehend about that!
Are you one of said tuners? What software? No wonder we're confused...you've been on all sides of this discussion. A tuner, not a tuner, a customer, not a customer.

Why are you in this thread?
 
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.... my tuner started with Dimsport and saw that it wasn't going to work for all the settings he wanted to change, and therefore moved on to REAL software, software that pulled almost 10 times the amount of data from the ECU image, making custom tuning just that much easier......
From your site:

"Our end result for the day, and though the car was sometimes unreliable, it produced the highest numbers. The car had a bad idle, constantly revving from 500-900RPM, and timing during the run wasn't established as we had previously set it. This ECU image came from the developer of the software used to pull an incredible amount of data from my ECU image with hundreds more settings available then any MINI ECU tuner on the market today. So we couldn't trust this image to drive the car home from the dyno without combining both the images from the first and third charts, and was flashed back to the first chart."

 
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Perfectly clear to me.
 
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Sounds like a painter with 20000 shades of blue but needs to paint a yellow sun
 
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i hope i'm not coming off as a hater on this forum, that was not my point at all - like i said, i admire that you had the business-knowledge to get in when you did and move on to start your own thing

enjoy your forum, i've said my point, i'm not going to get very far on here anyways....
You have totally come off as a hater. You make comments like "no real tuner" and post some seemingly impossible numbers with one dyno sheet to back it up from software that you haven't named. Like others have said to you in the past, if the numbers are real, then they are awesome, but the results haven't been repeated on other MINIs on other dynos. You also have a real arrogant and condescending tone to your posts. Oh and if you search on the VW Vortex about Florida dynos, they are known to read high on there too The point being, repeat the results and people might start listening. Oh , and what the hell does it matter if it is my wife's car or mine . You yourself have said that you have peole work on your car for you.
 



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