Drivetrain Oil cooler... why isn't anyone using one?
Minidog,
Does the Moss oil cooler leave the stock water cooled cooler, above the filter, in place? Does it have a thermostat?
Thanks,
Mark
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Does the Moss oil cooler leave the stock water cooled cooler, above the filter, in place? Does it have a thermostat?
Thanks,
Mark
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>>MINIDOG
>>How did you install the sensors for the oil pressure and temp gauges? I don't like the idea of installing them at the drain hole.
>>
>>Thanks
What I did was,drilled and tapped the adapter for the spin on filter, for the oil pressure then took a stock oil drain plug and drilled a tapped it for the oil temp sensor,been doing that for many years, works great
>>How did you install the sensors for the oil pressure and temp gauges? I don't like the idea of installing them at the drain hole.
>>
>>Thanks
What I did was,drilled and tapped the adapter for the spin on filter, for the oil pressure then took a stock oil drain plug and drilled a tapped it for the oil temp sensor,been doing that for many years, works great
>>Anyone have any new info on oil cooler for the S?
>>my current oil temp is alway running about 250
>>i belive a oil cooler is the best way to go.
>>
>>thx for any help
For heavy driving ..we ever seen the oil temp over 140 deg... and power gain loss obviously..Now we are using one additional oil cooler in our MCS, and will done the testing soon...it work will and keep oil temp at 100 deg around..
Kim
>>my current oil temp is alway running about 250
>>i belive a oil cooler is the best way to go.
>>
>>thx for any help
For heavy driving ..we ever seen the oil temp over 140 deg... and power gain loss obviously..Now we are using one additional oil cooler in our MCS, and will done the testing soon...it work will and keep oil temp at 100 deg around..
Kim
140 (Celsius = 284 farenheit). I think this is in operating range of synthetics. Question is., in hi boost applications, since the squirters cool the MCS pistons, is there a significant advantage to cooling the oil. I haven't heard of any failures attributable to an oiling problem.
140 (Celsius = 284 farenheit). I think this is in operating range of synthetics. Question is., in hi boost applications, since the squirters cool the MCS pistons, is there a significant advantage to cooling the oil. I haven't heard of any failures attributable to an oiling problem.
i get 250F + in normal driving, about 122C, so does this mean i am doing ok?
284F? isn't that way too hot?
1 of my friend who have the same gauge and same mod as me, is only running at 230 to 240 normal driving,
really hope a company will come up with a S oil cooler soon
284F? isn't that way too hot?
1 of my friend who have the same gauge and same mod as me, is only running at 230 to 240 normal driving,
really hope a company will come up with a S oil cooler soon
hi Guys...
We have been working on a fantastic oil cooler, that is watercooled using exsiting water hoses Etc.
The unit has gone thru a battery of tests by a renowned flow testing lab. We have one more test to do
and that is the acctual amount of oil (Gallons) that will flow thru the oil cooler unit.
You maybe ask your self why not sell it........NOW. The answer is, we want to be able to prove every aspect of
the design ie. pressure drops, cooling capacity, flow characteristics etc.
Innitial testing at the lab showed some incredible results and we will have a working prototype to show
at M7/ Randy's Pulley party and I will give Randy a sample for him to put thru the ringer asap.
peter horvath
Team M7
562-712-3270
We have been working on a fantastic oil cooler, that is watercooled using exsiting water hoses Etc.
The unit has gone thru a battery of tests by a renowned flow testing lab. We have one more test to do
and that is the acctual amount of oil (Gallons) that will flow thru the oil cooler unit.
You maybe ask your self why not sell it........NOW. The answer is, we want to be able to prove every aspect of
the design ie. pressure drops, cooling capacity, flow characteristics etc.
Innitial testing at the lab showed some incredible results and we will have a working prototype to show
at M7/ Randy's Pulley party and I will give Randy a sample for him to put thru the ringer asap.
peter horvath
Team M7
562-712-3270
>>hi Guys...
>>
>>We have been working on a fantastic oil cooler, that is watercooled using exsiting water hoses Etc.
>>The unit has gone thru a battery of tests by a renowned flow testing lab. We have one more test to do
>>and that is the acctual amount of oil (Gallons) that will flow thru the oil cooler unit.
>>
>>You maybe ask your self why not sell it........NOW. The answer is, we want to be able to prove every aspect of
>>the design ie. pressure drops, cooling capacity, flow characteristics etc.
>>
>>Innitial testing at the lab showed some incredible results and we will have a working prototype to show
>>at M7/ Randy's Pulley party and I will give Randy a sample for him to put thru the ringer asap.
>>
>>peter horvath
>>Team M7
>>562-712-3270
Sounds perfect, definately need it, put me down for 1.......another thing to add to shopping list.
COST???........WHEN???..........
>>
>>We have been working on a fantastic oil cooler, that is watercooled using exsiting water hoses Etc.
>>The unit has gone thru a battery of tests by a renowned flow testing lab. We have one more test to do
>>and that is the acctual amount of oil (Gallons) that will flow thru the oil cooler unit.
>>
>>You maybe ask your self why not sell it........NOW. The answer is, we want to be able to prove every aspect of
>>the design ie. pressure drops, cooling capacity, flow characteristics etc.
>>
>>Innitial testing at the lab showed some incredible results and we will have a working prototype to show
>>at M7/ Randy's Pulley party and I will give Randy a sample for him to put thru the ringer asap.
>>
>>peter horvath
>>Team M7
>>562-712-3270
Sounds perfect, definately need it, put me down for 1.......another thing to add to shopping list.
COST???........WHEN???..........
Sounds very nice. I am looking forward to seeing your testing data.
>>hi Guys...
>>
>>We have been working on a fantastic oil cooler, that is watercooled using exsiting water hoses Etc.
>>The unit has gone thru a battery of tests by a renowned flow testing lab. We have one more test to do
>>and that is the acctual amount of oil (Gallons) that will flow thru the oil cooler unit.
>>
>>You maybe ask your self why not sell it........NOW. The answer is, we want to be able to prove every aspect of
>>the design ie. pressure drops, cooling capacity, flow characteristics etc.
>>
>>Innitial testing at the lab showed some incredible results and we will have a working prototype to show
>>at M7/ Randy's Pulley party and I will give Randy a sample for him to put thru the ringer asap.
>>
>>peter horvath
>>Team M7
>>562-712-3270
>>
>>
>>hi Guys...
>>
>>We have been working on a fantastic oil cooler, that is watercooled using exsiting water hoses Etc.
>>The unit has gone thru a battery of tests by a renowned flow testing lab. We have one more test to do
>>and that is the acctual amount of oil (Gallons) that will flow thru the oil cooler unit.
>>
>>You maybe ask your self why not sell it........NOW. The answer is, we want to be able to prove every aspect of
>>the design ie. pressure drops, cooling capacity, flow characteristics etc.
>>
>>Innitial testing at the lab showed some incredible results and we will have a working prototype to show
>>at M7/ Randy's Pulley party and I will give Randy a sample for him to put thru the ringer asap.
>>
>>peter horvath
>>Team M7
>>562-712-3270
>>
>>
I don't think it will get the oil too cool, just cool it down somewhat, which should be a good thing and an improvement. Someone said that the synthetic oil needs to run a little hotter to clean off the funk or something like that. I don't know anything about that, but generally speaking cooling down your oil is a very good thing. I'm no expert, but I would think the benefits are a cooler engine, which will help both short term reliability (in hard drives and races) and long term reliability, as internal engine parts will last longer, i.e., pistons, rings, etc. Heat is the enemy of any engine, and probably zaps performance somewhat too.
So, an oil cooler is probably a good idea as is a higher performing radiator -- especially if they are lightweight.
So, an oil cooler is probably a good idea as is a higher performing radiator -- especially if they are lightweight.
My 2004 MCS was showing a steady temperature of 140 C (284 F) during a track day last week at Streets of Willow. I've been trying to find temperature ranges for synthetic oils, but haven't had any luck. Seems pretty damned high to me, especially since the gauge only goes up to 150.
Originally Posted by M7
We have been working on a fantastic oil cooler, that is watercooled using exsiting water hoses Etc.
The unit has gone thru a battery of tests by a renowned flow testing lab. We have one more test to do
and that is the acctual amount of oil (Gallons) that will flow thru the oil cooler unit.
The unit has gone thru a battery of tests by a renowned flow testing lab. We have one more test to do
and that is the acctual amount of oil (Gallons) that will flow thru the oil cooler unit.





