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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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Does the Moss oil cooler leave the stock water cooled cooler, above the filter, in place? Does it have a thermostat?
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 09:00 AM
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Hey Mark,the cooler is a two tube, separate, radiator that mounts above the air conditioning radiator then is connected to an adapter for the spin on filter-no thermostate.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 09:10 AM
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How did you install the sensors for the oil pressure and temp gauges? I don't like the idea of installing them at the drain hole.

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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 09:29 AM
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>>MINIDOG
>>How did you install the sensors for the oil pressure and temp gauges? I don't like the idea of installing them at the drain hole.
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What I did was,drilled and tapped the adapter for the spin on filter, for the oil pressure then took a stock oil drain plug and drilled a tapped it for the oil temp sensor,been doing that for many years, works great
 
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 09:32 AM
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colorado is talking about the tiny, existing, stock water/oil cooler located on the filter block.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 09:54 AM
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oh--I see
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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Anyone have any new info on oil cooler for the S?
my current oil temp is alway running about 250
i belive a oil cooler is the best way to go.

thx for any help
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 04:26 PM
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>>Anyone have any new info on oil cooler for the S?
>>my current oil temp is alway running about 250
>>i belive a oil cooler is the best way to go.
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>>thx for any help

For heavy driving ..we ever seen the oil temp over 140 deg... and power gain loss obviously..Now we are using one additional oil cooler in our MCS, and will done the testing soon...it work will and keep oil temp at 100 deg around..

Kim
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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140 (Celsius = 284 farenheit). I think this is in operating range of synthetics. Question is., in hi boost applications, since the squirters cool the MCS pistons, is there a significant advantage to cooling the oil. I haven't heard of any failures attributable to an oiling problem.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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140 (Celsius = 284 farenheit). I think this is in operating range of synthetics. Question is., in hi boost applications, since the squirters cool the MCS pistons, is there a significant advantage to cooling the oil. I haven't heard of any failures attributable to an oiling problem.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 10:35 PM
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i get 250F + in normal driving, about 122C, so does this mean i am doing ok?
284F? isn't that way too hot?

1 of my friend who have the same gauge and same mod as me, is only running at 230 to 240 normal driving,

really hope a company will come up with a S oil cooler soon
 
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Old May 6, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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Update on oil temps: highest I've seen so far is 232 degrees F. This was on a mild Colorado spring day at the track.
 
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Old May 6, 2004 | 01:27 PM
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Has anyone considered replacing the stock coolant thermostat with a lower temperature one?

With your coolant cooler, wouldn't you also reduce your oil temperatures since your oil is cooled by your coolant?
 
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Old May 6, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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hi Guys...

We have been working on a fantastic oil cooler, that is watercooled using exsiting water hoses Etc.
The unit has gone thru a battery of tests by a renowned flow testing lab. We have one more test to do
and that is the acctual amount of oil (Gallons) that will flow thru the oil cooler unit.

You maybe ask your self why not sell it........NOW. The answer is, we want to be able to prove every aspect of
the design ie. pressure drops, cooling capacity, flow characteristics etc.

Innitial testing at the lab showed some incredible results and we will have a working prototype to show
at M7/ Randy's Pulley party and I will give Randy a sample for him to put thru the ringer asap.

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Old May 6, 2004 | 11:50 PM
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>>hi Guys...
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>>We have been working on a fantastic oil cooler, that is watercooled using exsiting water hoses Etc.
>>The unit has gone thru a battery of tests by a renowned flow testing lab. We have one more test to do
>>and that is the acctual amount of oil (Gallons) that will flow thru the oil cooler unit.
>>
>>You maybe ask your self why not sell it........NOW. The answer is, we want to be able to prove every aspect of
>>the design ie. pressure drops, cooling capacity, flow characteristics etc.
>>
>>Innitial testing at the lab showed some incredible results and we will have a working prototype to show
>>at M7/ Randy's Pulley party and I will give Randy a sample for him to put thru the ringer asap.
>>
>>peter horvath
>>Team M7
>>562-712-3270

Sounds perfect, definately need it, put me down for 1.......another thing to add to shopping list.

COST???........WHEN???..........

 
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Old May 7, 2004 | 07:05 AM
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"Gallons"!! Holy cripes!

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Old May 7, 2004 | 07:13 AM
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Sounds very nice. I am looking forward to seeing your testing data.

>>hi Guys...
>>
>>We have been working on a fantastic oil cooler, that is watercooled using exsiting water hoses Etc.
>>The unit has gone thru a battery of tests by a renowned flow testing lab. We have one more test to do
>>and that is the acctual amount of oil (Gallons) that will flow thru the oil cooler unit.
>>
>>You maybe ask your self why not sell it........NOW. The answer is, we want to be able to prove every aspect of
>>the design ie. pressure drops, cooling capacity, flow characteristics etc.
>>
>>Innitial testing at the lab showed some incredible results and we will have a working prototype to show
>>at M7/ Randy's Pulley party and I will give Randy a sample for him to put thru the ringer asap.
>>
>>peter horvath
>>Team M7
>>562-712-3270
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>>

 
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Old May 8, 2004 | 12:45 PM
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one of the replies asked about a thermostat. I didn't find an answer.

So, let me put it this way, is it possible for one of these coolers to get the oil TOO?
 
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Old May 8, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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SORRY

premature enter-ulation

I should have asked, TOO cool?
 
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Old May 8, 2004 | 01:53 PM
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I don't think it will get the oil too cool, just cool it down somewhat, which should be a good thing and an improvement. Someone said that the synthetic oil needs to run a little hotter to clean off the funk or something like that. I don't know anything about that, but generally speaking cooling down your oil is a very good thing. I'm no expert, but I would think the benefits are a cooler engine, which will help both short term reliability (in hard drives and races) and long term reliability, as internal engine parts will last longer, i.e., pistons, rings, etc. Heat is the enemy of any engine, and probably zaps performance somewhat too.

So, an oil cooler is probably a good idea as is a higher performing radiator -- especially if they are lightweight.
 
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Old May 8, 2004 | 01:58 PM
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At what temp should the synthetic oil we run in our MINIs be for optimum performance?
 
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Old May 18, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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My 2004 MCS was showing a steady temperature of 140 C (284 F) during a track day last week at Streets of Willow. I've been trying to find temperature ranges for synthetic oils, but haven't had any luck. Seems pretty damned high to me, especially since the gauge only goes up to 150.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by M7
We have been working on a fantastic oil cooler, that is watercooled using exsiting water hoses Etc.
The unit has gone thru a battery of tests by a renowned flow testing lab. We have one more test to do
and that is the acctual amount of oil (Gallons) that will flow thru the oil cooler unit.
just wondering any new on the oil cooler?
 
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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Nearly a year and there is still no firm closure or conclusion to the topic.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 09:58 AM
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Nearly a year and there is still no firm closure or conclusion to the topic.
I noticed
 
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