Sorry to revive this thread, but I have a question. Just installed my DDMWorks intake but when I tightened the 2 screws the plate bent. See picture. Also, the screw on the far right was not long enough, so I used to stock ones.

The instructions also said nothing about what to do with the "metal tube".

Thanks guys.

 

The metal tube goes between the MAP sensor and the intake tube.

you kind of need to file/sand down the round opening for the MAP to fit in properly. The powder coating take up just enough to make it difficult to insert.

At least you have two screws, i got one. But that's all you really need.

 

I thought the metal tube goes through the hole of the intake base and connects the filter to the 90 degree tube. The other end of the 90 attaches to the MAP.

Thats how I installed it on Monday and it worked fine. Took all of about :30 minutes from hood up to hood down.

For noise, there is absolutely NO reason to get an aftermarket BOV with a DDM intake. There is PLENTY of PSSSSH during a shift (on a manual) when on the go pedal with enthusiasm.

Bob

 

Sorry to go a bit off topic, but since I'm considering both of these intakes and I already have the M7 strut brace, does anybody know if either will fit with the brace installed? Adam? Dave?

Thanks,
Chris

 

the alta will fit I have that setup now. You do have to trim the shroud, but it was easy and there a rubber edge covering so it looks good

 

Thanks chakraj. That's what I wanted to hear. That may decide it for me. Do you have a picture?

Thanks again,
-C

 

Here is a few shots from my iphone. I have a (slightly modified) DDM Ram Air System, the M7 Strur bar, and the Alta intake, You will aslo see the Unichip PNP, and the Alta turbo inlet tube. the tape on the alta turbo inlet tube is because the DDM RAS is touching it ever so slightly and i didnt want to mark it up before I fix it. I have the M7 heat shield on order now

 

Thanks chakraj!

 

Like HE^^^ said you can make the ALTA work with the brace. Minor changes in the intake system later this year will prevent having to make any changes for future purchasers.

If you are local, we can do the mod here! no problem!

 

Hi Adam, I'm a newbie writing from Australia. It is illegal to have an exposed air filter here so it looks like I will have to go the full DDM race intake system, but unfortunately there is no option for a strut tower brace. Is this something you would consider engineering and manufacturing for our market and others who have opted for the enclosed DDM race intake???

Thanks, Tony

 

You have a few choices that will work with a strut bar, there is the M7 AGS-R that is awsome but expensive.

you also have the Defenders of speed.

 

Thanks for the heads up Chakraj I dont suppose anyone has dynoed the difference between the DDM race and the M7 AGS-R?

I would have thought the DDM would have the advantage by untilizing the OEM CAI pipe as well as the RAM effect from the air scoop. Any thoughts???

 

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. We have a strong following in OZ and that may be reason enough to do something different. I haven't tried any other strut brace options on the DDM, but if I have the opportunity too, I will let you know!

 

My thoughts are that the AGS-R uses a foam filter, a massive foam filter at 12 inches. It also does the "ram air" in the same manner because it still being forced directly into each system's respective filter area, not traveling over a turbo and heat soaked engine bay. Although it takes the same route, it is covered and isloated to a specfic area in each system. However, the DDM doesn't have a foam filter and thats where I think it lacks appeal from the ALTA and M7 brand foam systems.

I have the ALTA on my car at the moment and I have felt a major difference from the K&N Filters I used to own on my BMW's to the ALTA/m7 Foam Filters on my MINI, just better unrestricted air flow.

The AGS-R also utilizes the oem pipe, but I am about to install the AGS-R with my already installed complete ALTA Plumbing. Should be the best of both worlds! Also, cleaning a foam filter is easier and takes half the time of than the K&N type filters. Just my .02. Motor On!

 

Thanks Adam, I look forward to seeing what you come up with


Thanks for the suggestions dtsoccer6! Maybe I wasn't clear about the OEM cold air inlet pipe which starts from behind the headlight and feeds the fresh air into the airbox not the turbo inlet pipe form the airbox to the turbo. I'm pretty sure the M7 AGS-R deletes the use of cold air inlet pipe. Can you confirm???

 

Yes, it does. That thing, IMO, is blocked mostly anyways. Think about where it sits, right behind the closed bonnet. A small amount of air squeezes through the headlight, but beside that, its blocked. Removing it is wont help nor hurt the AGS-R, obviously why m7 decided against it.

Not as big a contributor as the turbo inlet or a functional hood scoop. Hope I helped!

 

No problem! Give me a month or so (if you can wait ) Chat soon!

 

I'm pretty sure it deletes the stock air inlet hose 99% sure... That's just judging from all pics I've seen... That and their install guide :p I personally have the DDMWorks race intake and prototyped gtspec's strut tower brace which works great with the DDMWorks intake and because it's angled would also fit Alta's intake, stock intake and jcw intakes... Not too sure on m7's products tho... I'd stick with their own strut brace when it comes to their intakes... I used to have their stb on my r56... Anyway I paired the DDMWorks with all of Alta's other bolt ons (turbo inlet hose, boost tubes, intercooler and turboback exhaust) and butt dyno tells me I'm faster than my friend's r56 with Alta catback intake and ecu... Dyno also proved that where I'm making 231whp and 246lbft with my current upgrades ( which if I understand right is one of the best bolt on numbers out there without a legit tune... Granted it is paired with ecu settings from jcw stage 1 bolt on...

 

anybody install the ddm street and feel like they lost some power, like the car doesnt pull as hard?

 

I think you lose a little power at lower RPM's but gain some up in the powerband

 

like how up....5k+ up?
and anybody with the ddm open up the scoop and feel a difference?
i know its just an intake but im trying to cmpare results....

 

You can search my posts of how I tested the DDM Street Vs stock Airbox with Alta Panel filter and went faster on the same day with the stock airbox

 

i knew it...thats exactly what i had before i put on the ddm...stock box with alta panel......
i think im gonna put on an alta open intake and compare it to the stock airbox because as of right now the ddm fails...

and for anyone thats going to say i have dynos and numbers dont lie...save it....you dont need numbers to tell u if ur car is going slower or not....

 

That's great everyone's worth doing their own thing, i personally have the race intake by DDMWorks on my car paired with every other Alta bolt on just because i liked the design better than the M7 and the look and function of it as well, i personally see a HUGE difference in my car's pulling all around the power band. i have Dyno's and all that, but Fronjoni doesn't want those so i won't bother posting. however, i do have to say that if you're running ANY open air intake you should unblock the hood scoop, it's quick, easy and you will see a difference, Alta proved that in their testing of their own intake system.

On top of that, i'm sure that if you're running full blast on an open air filter and only have the ambient air intake used by the stock intake you're going to lose power after some time for two reasons. 1) your open air filter is being 80% exposed to nothing but wicked hot air under the hood in a closed environment, ergo, that ambient air part provided by the stock system won't really help much, if at all. 2) Stock set up (or just closed air intake systems in general) will work better because it's closed! there will be significantly less hot air from the turbo and engine effecting the intake air because it's all ambient

and the very reason i ended up choosing the DDMWork's race intake over all the others is because a)it has a closed system b)you can get the JCW Dry K&N Filter which is 12 inches long and will fill the whole air box to get even more filter area than the K&N filter they send with it, c) unlike stock or M7, it doesn't have one but TWO ambient air intakes, one from the scoop and the other used as the stock system connecting to the bottom of the stock intake which is used on their system, d) ram air is effective especially at speed e) it keeps the cold air further from the hot turbo f) makes all services for the vehicle extremely easy compared to the M7 AGS-R which you have to take off to do servicing for the vehicle g) it won't kill you engine because personal opinion foam filters may provide a LITTLE bit more power, but they let a lot more gunk through than a K&N filter and h) the DDMWork's Race Intake is worth every penny because it gives you form and function as well as oo's and aahh's when you open the hood.

on a slight side note, honestly power is great, anyone who's driven a 500whp STI or Evo or Lambo knows that... but as honda and blatantly mini has proven... you don't need a titan powerplant of an engine to make your mini go fast or destroy japanese cars... my mildly modified R50 had only coilovers, wheels, tyres, brakes, lower control arms, short throw, and an intake and exhaust, and on back roads and NJMP, i can keep up with a pretty well modified STI and in corners even pass him... downside being his power and AWD beats me on the straights, but my lightness and handling always took him hands down in the corners. just throwing it out there, obviously there's nothing better than putting your own wrenching time into a car and making it better in every way. but for a good fast car... the original mini in the Monty Carlo race didn't win off power

 

okay obviously after spending hundreds of dollars (almost 500 w/install right?) id expect good things from a system like that....but my comparison was about open air intakes and while i always felt that a closed system is generally better than open for this car, i thought id try it out mainly because companies are posting dynos showing 8-10whp over 5k and an otherwise even band with stock....which tells me....i cant lose, i can only gain or stay the same (ideally**)...plus i got a good deal on marketplace....

either way, the loss i am experiencing is not tolerable, the gain uptop which is extremely slight, does not compensate for the loss....i think most people are getting fooled by the sound its making and hearing their turbo spool up....imo....

im gonna take off the scoop right now and see what happens as far as the feel of the car...

btw, my dyno comment was about the ddm street....thats all....so post away on ur ddm race....