Drivetrain M7's own Super-AGS thread
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No, what i'm saying is, if I was a business owner and saw some of the stuff that gets said in these "public" forums, I would be contacting my lawyer.
I mean, except for the dyno results, of course. 
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No wonder we have so many retarded frivolous lawsuits in the US.
Like.... This one.
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And lastly on the topic of converting me to Christianity (You're quick, usually there's at least a little foreplay), I'm agnostic, and have plenty of "Light" in my life without believing in all powerful divine creation. (Plus it'd conflict with all known science, and well, that just doesn't work for me).
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Yes, because it represents a logical civil case to sue those who don't like your products (And/or don't think they do anything).
No wonder we have so many retarded frivolous lawsuits in the US.
Like.... This one.
No wonder we have so many retarded frivolous lawsuits in the US.
Like.... This one.
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On the topic of naysayers (Since you brought up the topic of what people are saying on the forums about M7), perhaps there's a reason people don't have the same things to say about other vendors like Helix, RMW, etc. If you make a claim, then don't back it up, people are going to jump on the bandwagon.
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[quote=rustyboy155;2230653]I'm not much a fan of inlightenment. I much prefer the kind starting with an "e" (enlightenment).
And lastly on the topic of converting me to Christianity (You're quick, usually there's at least a little foreplay), I'm agnostic, and have plenty of "Light" in my life without believing in all powerful divine creation. (Plus it'd conflict with all known science, and well, that just doesn't work for me).[/quote]
1.I'm not converting anybody?
2.Your completly mistaken on this statement.
3. I'm done, back to work
And lastly on the topic of converting me to Christianity (You're quick, usually there's at least a little foreplay), I'm agnostic, and have plenty of "Light" in my life without believing in all powerful divine creation. (Plus it'd conflict with all known science, and well, that just doesn't work for me).[/quote]
1.I'm not converting anybody?
2.Your completly mistaken on this statement.
3. I'm done, back to work
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I'm not much a fan of inlightenment. I much prefer the kind starting with an "e" (enlightenment).
And lastly on the topic of converting me to Christianity (You're quick, usually there's at least a little foreplay), I'm agnostic, and have plenty of "Light" in my life without believing in all powerful divine creation. (Plus it'd conflict with all known science, and well, that just doesn't work for me).
And lastly on the topic of converting me to Christianity (You're quick, usually there's at least a little foreplay), I'm agnostic, and have plenty of "Light" in my life without believing in all powerful divine creation. (Plus it'd conflict with all known science, and well, that just doesn't work for me).
2.Your completly mistaken on this statement.
3. I'm done, back to work
Sorry... not a fan of Kool-aide.
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Many resons to keep the surface area as large as possible.
1. Less back pressure allowing the turbo to spool up faster and more efficiently.
2. As the surface area is larger, the longer it will take for the filter to plug
up from dirt particles.
3. Airflow, airflow, airflow is the bottom line, the more the better...Period
I do not have an image from a black unit today, but I'm expecting a bunch
of black ones this week and I will takes some pictures to show them of.
I do not have a sound file to share, and my video guy is in the Phillipines for vacation. I will try to get something up as soon as possible.
With that said the Super-AGS is not a loud system and the reason is most
likely that we have managed the airflow incredibly well with the Vortex generators/velocity stack allowing the air to flow very efficiently at the
throat of the out-put area. You will still hear the turbo spooling and the
bov doing it's job.
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1. Less back pressure allowing the turbo to spool up faster and more efficiently.
2. As the surface area is larger, the longer it will take for the filter to plug
up from dirt particles.
3. Airflow, airflow, airflow is the bottom line, the more the better...Period
I do not have an image from a black unit today, but I'm expecting a bunch
of black ones this week and I will takes some pictures to show them of.
I do not have a sound file to share, and my video guy is in the Phillipines for vacation. I will try to get something up as soon as possible.
With that said the Super-AGS is not a loud system and the reason is most
likely that we have managed the airflow incredibly well with the Vortex generators/velocity stack allowing the air to flow very efficiently at the
throat of the out-put area. You will still hear the turbo spooling and the
bov doing it's job.
Peter
M7 Tuning
562-608-8123
www.m7tuning.com
However, your post has a couple statements that look promising. Namely, that the S-AGS allows the turbo to spool up more quickly. Any chance that you can release any relevant information pertaining to how much faster the turbo will spool up?
I'm also a bit ignorant when it comes to the testing and measurement of turbo performance standards - so I would seriously love to know by what methods you measured this decreased turbo spool up time.
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I have never been a big fan of aftermarket intakes for a variety of reasons - the bottom line being that they usually don't provide any measurable difference and they are an excellent focal point for a dealer shib-canning your warranty.
However, your post has a couple statements that look promising. Namely, that the S-AGS allows the turbo to spool up more quickly. Any chance that you can release any relevant information pertaining to how much faster the turbo will spool up?
I'm also a bit ignorant when it comes to the testing and measurement of turbo performance standards - so I would seriously love to know by what methods you measured this decreased turbo spool up time.
However, your post has a couple statements that look promising. Namely, that the S-AGS allows the turbo to spool up more quickly. Any chance that you can release any relevant information pertaining to how much faster the turbo will spool up?
I'm also a bit ignorant when it comes to the testing and measurement of turbo performance standards - so I would seriously love to know by what methods you measured this decreased turbo spool up time.
actually, having a free flowing filter does aid in quicker spool....maybe 2-300rpm sooner as the exhaust gases don't have to fight pressure across the cold side. a small difference for sure and beneficial on normal turbo cars that don't spool until almost 3k rpm. On the R56 which reaches max boost well before even that point, it's kind of like throwing a deck chair off the Titanic.
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wow, this thread has really gone awry.
For the record.. i dont think Jiminni was doing anything wrong by quoting the bible... i mean if someone quoted something Budah or even Confucius, i doubt anyone would throw a hissy fit. Its just a quote guys, hes not trying to convert anyone. Its not like bible verses arent used in movies and music all the time.
Anyway, back to the topic.
For the record.. i dont think Jiminni was doing anything wrong by quoting the bible... i mean if someone quoted something Budah or even Confucius, i doubt anyone would throw a hissy fit. Its just a quote guys, hes not trying to convert anyone. Its not like bible verses arent used in movies and music all the time.
Anyway, back to the topic.
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actually, having a free flowing filter does aid in quicker spool....maybe 2-300rpm sooner as the exhaust gases don't have to fight pressure across the cold side. a small difference for sure and beneficial on normal turbo cars that don't spool until almost 3k rpm. On the R56 which reaches max boost well before even that point, it's kind of like throwing a deck chair off the Titanic.
A free flowing filter and a $500 CAI are two vastly different things though
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actually, having a free flowing filter does aid in quicker spool....maybe 2-300rpm sooner as the exhaust gases don't have to fight pressure across the cold side. a small difference for sure and beneficial on normal turbo cars that don't spool until almost 3k rpm. On the R56 which reaches max boost well before even that point, it's kind of like throwing a deck chair off the Titanic.
Also, maybe I'm ignorant, but was the claim "sooner" or "faster"? Or does it matter?
performance wise, no, they are closer than the price suggests. if there's something revolutionary here, it remains to be seen. As I mentioned a few pages back...that's my interest in this thread.