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I have a feeling the two MAP sensors are used for different things. One is probably used for the boost controller and the other [or both] used for the BOV operation. I would enjoy teasing both signals, seeing how the ECU uses them! I'm sure UNIchip already has a solid understanding of them, but it's also their job!
Most likely the manifold sensor is used for engine tuning under vacuum, and the tmap (pre throttlebody) is probably used for air density calculations / boost control. The bypass valve is most likely vacuum operated. Does anyone have a closeup picture of it?
Most likely the manifold sensor is used for engine tuning under vacuum, and the tmap (pre throttlebody) is probably used for air density calculations / boost control. The bypass valve is most likely vacuum operated. Does anyone have a closeup picture of it?
The bypass is electric just like the dv on the VW 2.0ts. Also, I'd be very surprised if bmw put two map sensors/ iat on the car. I think one is IAT and one is map. Also, your theory of one controlling map under vacuum and one controlling it under boost, why would it do that? The sensors are going to read near the same thing anyway, they're a foot apart.
The bypass is electric just like the dv on the VW 2.0ts. Also, I'd be very surprised if bmw put two map sensors/ iat on the car. I think one is IAT and one is map. Also, your theory of one controlling map under vacuum and one controlling it under boost, why would it do that? The sensors are going to read near the same thing anyway, they're a foot apart.
That is how the BMW 335i works, anyway. On the 335i the manifold map sensor isn't calibrated to read boost, only vacuum.
The one before the throttle body is called a tmap sensor, meaning it reads boost and IAT. On the 335i it is used to control the boost system, as well as air density calculations for tuning when the manifold sensor is out of vacuum. We'll see if the R56 is similar once I probe the sensors.
Last edited by Terry @ BMS; Jan 25, 2008 at 07:47 PM.
The bypass is electric just like the dv on the VW 2.0ts. Also, I'd be very surprised if bmw put two map sensors/ iat on the car. I think one is IAT and one is map. Also, your theory of one controlling map under vacuum and one controlling it under boost, why would it do that? The sensors are going to read near the same thing anyway, they're a foot apart.
By using to 5v sensors they get more resolution in tunning for both areas. So tunning should have been more precise.
Originally Posted by Terry @ BMS
That is how the BMW 335i works, anyway. On the 335i the manifold map sensor isn't calibrated to read boost, only vacuum.
The one before the throttle body is called a tmap sensor, meaning it reads boost and IAT. On the 335i it is used to control the boost system, as well as air density calculations for tuning when the manifold sensor is out of vacuum. We'll see if the R56 is similar once I probe the sensors.
Well I think, the TMAP is there for the boost controll only since we got screwed with a MAF sensor too. I want an euro spec ECU lol to get rid of it.
Could the EU ECU have more scope for tuning because it doesn't use a MAF?
I don't believe so, but running a wideband closed loop does make for smoother operation, and generally makes the car easier to modify. Of course you also remove a restriction in the intake stream which is never a bad thing.
But the US R56 might run fuel off the wideband also, I'll have to see!
Last edited by Terry @ BMS; Jan 27, 2008 at 09:12 AM.