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Drivetrain Got beat by an old Galant (I think..)

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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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Got beat by an old Galant (I think..)

It sounded like it was turbo charged because I kept hearing loud BOV noise.
From the stop light going into the 50 mph zone I was like a car length behind by the time we were ~60mph. It was fast. The road was slick with rain and my All season tires didn't have a good grip so I left the AST on but would I have been faster with manual gas pedal modulation with more experience than leaving it up to TC?
 

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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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I didn't realize they had speed zones on race tracks.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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This one?
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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galant vr4s have turbo motors similar to the eclipse and evo motors and are awd.

And racing in the rain against an awd car is a losing proposition.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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Yeah the VR4 can be a monster w/ the right build.

It's kind of like an old old old school Evo. Kind of.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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moral of the story, if you don't know what it is, don't race
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty
moral of the story, if you don't know what it is, don't race
agreed... know the other car! Those can be pretty impressive with the right parts and money!
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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Neither of us was revving. Both were pretending to be sleepers. Then when the light turned both went for it. I always do when I am at the front of the line and there are no cops around. I was surprised that he did the same thing and I was surprised he was that fast. It could have been AWD but I don't know.

It was not as old as that in that picture above. It was a 90's model.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 12:25 PM
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agreed... know the other car! Those can be pretty impressive with the right parts and money!
I don't look over to the car next to me. I avoid eye contact as well because I don't mean to race the other car. I just take off aggressively. When there is no one around I turn my AST off and peel the rubbers sometimes.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 12:33 PM
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the last galant vr4 sold in the us was from the early 90's (and they looked pretty plain), so like already mentioned, you might've encountered a real sleeper; those can be fast if they knew what they were doing. are you sure it wasn't an evo?
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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How else are you gonna find out? But, speaking as someone who has raced legally and illegally, its better when there's an ambulance around.

There are a lot of DSM and Chrysler cars running around with high horsepower thanks to the aftermarket. I have an acquaintance with a 300+ hp 1st gen eclipse. Scary car. I have seen video of a Caravan minivan that cuts mid-10s. If the car you are up against came equipped with an engine that had a turbo in any of its applications, all bets are off, because it's probably pretty cheap to modify. Don't assume that colt vista in the next lane is gonna be a pushover.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty
moral of the story, if you don't know what it is, don't race

True - lessons I've learned:

1) A twin-turbo Maserati sedan from the mid-eighties is a fast car hidden behind an ugly, generic exterior, and

2) A Super-Duty 455c.i. Trans Am doesn't look very different from any other early-70's TA.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by scabpicker
I have seen video of a Caravan minivan that cuts mid-10s.
Not quite that quick but still. Its a F'in mini van!
http://www.turbovan.net/van.html
Did this look like the car:
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Salty
moral of the story, if you don't know what it is, don't race
Whats the fun in that? Race things that you think you'll lose to then beat them and have them have that wtf look on their faces.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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moral of the story, if you arent on the track dont endanger innocent peoples lives


fixed....
 
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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Probably a `91 VR4 AWD turbo....

That Galant could have had one of these turbo upgrades.
http://www.turbo-kits.com/galant_turbo_upgrades.html
It was early in the morning and dark. All I saw was the tail lights while busy shifting. I stared at it wondering wth???
 
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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Brother had a '91 VR4 for many years ... deceptively fast car .... he did a fair amount of work on the it too so I wouldn't be surprised if that is what it was ...
 
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ghosthound


fixed....
If you get up any higher on that horse, you are going to have a nasty fall one day. You want to leave the racing for the track? Why don't you leave the preaching for the church.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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If it had that upgrade, we would have pulled way more than 1 car length on a stock or close to stock R56. AWD + 380-400AWHP=beast. Until he hits about 120 than AWD says "I'm stealing your powers!". It was prolly a bolt on car, ie-CAI, cat or turbo back. Maybe a little more boost but nothing serious.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ghosthound


fixed....
I'm so glad the forum police are around to make sure we all know it's perfectly legal and safe to briskly accelerate from a stop light

no where was this said to be a street race


if I am the first at a light, my foot is to the floor, ASC keeps my wheels in check, EVERY SINGLE LIGHT, as far as I know it's not breaking the law, I'm not racing anyone, just like the OP in this thread
 
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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^Yeah, I agree. I don't consider going from 0-60 in a 50 mph zone racing. Yeah, 10mph over the speed limit is speeding. But, how many cops are gonna give you crap over that? It must be a fairly wide open area for there to be a 50 mph limit. You'd have to be looking pretty hard to see the difference between 50 and 60 without a gun.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by FSU VHO
If you get up any higher on that horse, you are going to have a nasty fall one day. You want to leave the racing for the track? Why don't you leave the preaching for the church.

great first post. unless you're hiding behind a new screen name you might want to read the forum guidelines (along with the OP).

How do you get beat if it isn't a race?
 

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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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I'm trying very hard to lighten up when it comes to moderating what appears to be "displays of speed". The community as a whole doesn't like to see these kind of things and are letting the poster know it when he/she posts. Given this I feel that the thread self-moderates based on the feedback from the members. Like most of speed-related threads this one has gone on to talk about the other car...which I think is a perfectly good topic for discussion.

For now, no need to lock/remove the thread, or issue any kind of penalties...the general MINI community has spoken about the issue and I think that this is sufficient.

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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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if I am the first at a light, my foot is to the floor, ASC keeps my wheels in check, EVERY SINGLE LIGHT, as far as I know it's not breaking the law, I'm not racing anyone, just like the OP in this thread
actually, i've gotten pulled over for "accelerating too quickly" a.k.a. reckless driving.

i chripped my tires and i got pulled over for it.


laaaaaaame.:impatient
 
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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My friend has a 1975 Triumph TR6. Originally it came to the states with about 106 hp. He has modified the engine a bit and now it has multi-port fuel injection, supercharged, and intercooled, as well as a few other modifications. It is rather fast and has been clocked from 0-60 in under 4 seconds(in a 65mph zone). His dyno runs were good for about 200hp at the wheels. Follow the link in my signature and you can see pictures of his car. It is scary fast.
 
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