It's also not "just" a cold air intake. It is a well designed and tested ram air intake.

 

i dont know if there is such a thing as "ram air" for fuel injected cars... more so for turbo charged engines.

 

Would the AGS-R CAI be compatible with (and a suitable upgrade for) a R56 with the JCW Engine Tuning Kit? It just seems so well designed, I'm kinda salivating.

 

I'm gonna go out ona limb and say yes, because it replaces the airbox. But now you've paid $2000 for JCW and another $600+ for an intake. :impatient

Can we see more pics of the underside of the airbox?

 

Why not? The air is being "rammed" directly into the filter via a scoop. I don't really see that big of a difference between this and a carbed muscle car of old. Both will suck air in just fine on their own, but benefit from cool air having a straight shot to the filter.

 

Man, that is just HOT. To bad M7 can't make something like that for the old Rs that could tie into the side air intake. Nice job.

 

VERY nice! But Sweet jebus That thing is crazy money!! To rich for my blood, Very nice though.

 

thats becuase you don't understand how a turbocharger works...

raming air into a turbo is alot like peeing in the ocean... sure... it makes a differnce... but its pretty minute in the grand scheme of things...

also all of that lovely "cold ram air" is superheated when being compressed in the incredibly HOT turbo. This is why it is most important to have a very efficent intercooler as opposed to a cold air intake... because its more important to control the air that actually enters the engine... than to control the air that enters the turbo.

 

isellem what you're saying it's true, but it's also true that it's better to have less air restriction and a bigger filtering area, so the turbo can suck a bit better... and if the air it's colder is also better, even if the gain is less than in a NA engine.

I think that with a turbo/supercharged engine the engine scoop is more effective if used for the intercooler, like in the mk1 MCS and the Impreza, but using it for the filter is not a so bad idea, look at all the turbocharged car that run in amateur drag races, without a headlight so the filter can breath thru it, or at the BBR 300hp turbocharged mk1 MCS, with that big filter over the engine behind the scoop, and it's still one of the fastest mini.

Of course in terms of perfomarcance a bigger turbo or a more efficient intercooler is a lot more effective.

 

BUMP for numbers!

 

Hi there...

Nardo is currently working on a CAN-Bus interface tying in all the
in car sensors etc.
We will have more soon.

Peter
M7 Tuning
562-608-8123

 

while you are correct and that it is effective. The removal of a headlight on a drag car is for that last ounce of power, that extreme move to remove even more weight and possibly get something else extra out of it. Also, drag turbo cars do not run airfilters... they often run just a mesh screen over the inlet.

My argument, which i personanlly think you understand and are relating to in the last sentance of your post, is that the time, effort/energy and money spent on this is better spent elsewhere on the engine. i haven't read it for myself yet but i have been told that this system makes about 7hp... now compare that to mike4572s intake for 55 dollars.

or spend that 600 bucks or so and spend it on an intercooler and you will get ALOT more out of it that out of a so called "ram air" system (that admittedly by m7 doesn' really make a big differnce)

 

the intercooler is more important to giving the car a cool intake charge than any air filter system...it's forced induction after all (ram air is not > the turbo's ability to suck air in). most OEM systems are plenty capable to well beyond stock power levels if a hi-flow filter is put in the stock airbox. it will be nice to see some hard data showing M7 has outdone BMW engineers.

 

Any worry about the front part of the intake melting? Its right over the turbo and heat shield, just a thought. Screw the can bus lets dyno the car

Have fun!
Josh

 

a dyno doesn't begin to approximate real world driving conditions with respect to something like an intake or intercooler. you'd need a proper dyno room setup

http://bankspower.com/im_DieselPower_db_sum05.cfm

 

Well maybe if you don't use the scoop a cooper bonnet could be better...less drag, and in my opinion, it even looks better.

 

I think the acceleration times, even with a stopwatch and looking at the tacho, are often more reliable than a dyno.

Try a 50-90 kph in 2nd or 90-130 in 3rd, or the 0-160 kph... When you have seconds of difference, then you know the money were well spent.

 

Granted, but given a baseline it gives you a pretty good idea and an easily quantifiable power number for not a retarded amount of money. If you want to test the intake or IC just blow a LOT of air on the front of the car. Should be fine. Theres no replacement for real world testing but unfortunately you cant quantify very much. Need an F1 style rolling road, which I don't have the money to rent!

Back to the topic. Any idea if the front part of the intake would melt? And other pics of the components we cant see?

 

Wouldn't that just defeat the purpose of this thread?

 

We have a new product coming that will address that issue as well. We first noticed this problem when our stock scoop showed signs of deformation due to heat after a very hot test session. The prototype piece has been signed off on and we will be showing that shortly. It will work with all r-56 turbo applications.
Regarding dyno testing , as this item works primarily with the rush of incoming cool air it's benefits will be harder to detect. I'm not saying it will not get dynoed, we are just not looking for much in that particular type of test.

Randy
M7 Tuning

 

Can i buy one yet?

 

B U M P

 

Thank you for waiting and not making a stink.....

The issue is SEMA, yes SEMA is big-time for my composite shop who is taking all the resources from small guys like me, and giving them to the big boys (read Honda, Toyota, and Nissan). But with that said I have been promissed lay-up time next week...so cross your fingers.


Peter
M7 Tuning
562-608-8123

 

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.. I will make the next intake in Mellow Yellow with a CF
top cover.

(slow turning head-Matrix style)... that looks AWESOME!

I am now getting depressed..........which mod do I do first..

 

so ?
any updates, just got my latest issue of MC2, first page, wham, there it is.
of course I still don't see any numbers or it listed on your site. I don't see the intercooler diverter/funnel on your site either.
nice oem look, the fiberglass unit sounds like a fair price, similar to the ddm unit, but what are you working on to protect it from being cooked by the turbo ?