Drivetrain Adding GP intercooler to R53 - what does it take?
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Adding GP intercooler to R53 - what does it take?
In the same token as my Adding GP trailing arms to R53 - what does it take? thread, I decided to post the specific info on the GP Intercooler differences. It's a lot simpler to do this than the trailing arms, of course... and it has been done many times already by others here on NAM.
Still, it's nice to have a quick reference, in case someone is curious, so here goes:
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I have done careful comparison of the "CHARGE-AIR COOLER" and "GRILLE, HOOD, COOPER S" sections between the standard R53 and the GP... courtesy of RealOEM.com), and it is clear there are only four part #s that separate the two, at least with regards to the intercooler. Everything else in the drivetrain is identical to a JCW MCS (except for the ECU flash).
For those who don't already know, here's a list of the "UNIQUE TO GP" parts in that region of the car (based upon unique part #s):
17517565302 - CHARGE-AIR COOLER (Qty: 1)
17517565345 - SEALING PLATE, CHARGE-AIR COOLER (Qty: 1)
17517565396 - SUPPORT (Qty: 2)
51134404668 - AIR DUCT (Qty: 1)
The only other GP-unique parts beyond that are decals... but if your MCS isn't actually a GP, you don't want to label it as one, do you? Counterfeit GP? LOL...
In case you want to look through them yourself, here are the 4 pages I used to extract these part numbers:
RealOEM.com - R53 Cooper S CHARGE-AIR COOLER
RealOEM.com - R53 Cooper S JCW GP CHARGE-AIR COOLER
RealOEM.com - R53 Cooper S GRILLE, HOOD, COOPER S
RealOEM.com - R53 Cooper S JCW GP GRILLE, HOOD, COOPER S
Still, it's nice to have a quick reference, in case someone is curious, so here goes:
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I have done careful comparison of the "CHARGE-AIR COOLER" and "GRILLE, HOOD, COOPER S" sections between the standard R53 and the GP... courtesy of RealOEM.com), and it is clear there are only four part #s that separate the two, at least with regards to the intercooler. Everything else in the drivetrain is identical to a JCW MCS (except for the ECU flash).
For those who don't already know, here's a list of the "UNIQUE TO GP" parts in that region of the car (based upon unique part #s):
17517565302 - CHARGE-AIR COOLER (Qty: 1)
17517565345 - SEALING PLATE, CHARGE-AIR COOLER (Qty: 1)
17517565396 - SUPPORT (Qty: 2)
51134404668 - AIR DUCT (Qty: 1)
The only other GP-unique parts beyond that are decals... but if your MCS isn't actually a GP, you don't want to label it as one, do you? Counterfeit GP? LOL...
In case you want to look through them yourself, here are the 4 pages I used to extract these part numbers:
RealOEM.com - R53 Cooper S CHARGE-AIR COOLER
RealOEM.com - R53 Cooper S JCW GP CHARGE-AIR COOLER
RealOEM.com - R53 Cooper S GRILLE, HOOD, COOPER S
RealOEM.com - R53 Cooper S JCW GP GRILLE, HOOD, COOPER S
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Interesting...
How is the GP intercooler different than the intercooler on the R53? Is it larger, or more airflow?
How is the GP intercooler different than the intercooler on the R53? Is it larger, or more airflow?
I have done careful comparison of the "CHARGE-AIR COOLER" and "GRILLE, HOOD, COOPER S" sections between the standard R53 and the GP... courtesy of RealOEM.com), and it is clear there are only four part #s that separate the two, at least with regards to the intercooler. Everything else in the drivetrain is identical to a JCW MCS (except for the ECU flash).
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In other words, the main gain would be at high RPMs over an extended period of time.
It won't help much at the dragstrip, but it should help at the racetrack!
The downside though... you won't be able to access the spark plugs any more without removing the IC first.
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Here’s a thread on the subject entering at the middle. https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=81696
I’ve retrofitted the intercooler, if you have the early model duct with the rubber threshold you will need the later model duct to fit the GP intercooler but the costly GP specific model (668) is not needed. The GP part has some of the support ribs trimmed to avoid contact with the IC cover but a more accurate trimming can easily be performed by the user, in fact I had to trim the GP part because it did not have adequate trimming placement.
I’ve retrofitted the intercooler, if you have the early model duct with the rubber threshold you will need the later model duct to fit the GP intercooler but the costly GP specific model (668) is not needed. The GP part has some of the support ribs trimmed to avoid contact with the IC cover but a more accurate trimming can easily be performed by the user, in fact I had to trim the GP part because it did not have adequate trimming placement.
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Here’s a thread on the subject entering at the middle. https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=81696
I’ve retrofitted the intercooler, if you have the early model duct with the rubber threshold you will need the later model duct to fit the GP intercooler but the costly GP specific model (668) is not needed. The GP part has some of the support ribs trimmed to avoid contact with the IC cover but a more accurate trimming can easily be performed by the user, in fact I had to trim the GP part because it did not have adequate trimming placement.
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I’ve retrofitted the intercooler, if you have the early model duct with the rubber threshold you will need the later model duct to fit the GP intercooler but the costly GP specific model (668) is not needed. The GP part has some of the support ribs trimmed to avoid contact with the IC cover but a more accurate trimming can easily be performed by the user, in fact I had to trim the GP part because it did not have adequate trimming placement.
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Well, they have identical placement in theory, but in practice the foam strip can be sloppily routed on either part. I installed the later model duct on my vehicle with the stock intercooler but I’ve purchased a new foam strip to replace the original because it was stuck on in an uneven fashion. They really are the same part with some of the bracket rib ground down on the driver’s side so if you have the later model there is no need to get the GP IC cover. The foam will form-fit over the capture hump so no need to trim on that piece. The under hood insulation will need to be massaged in a couple of spots to prevent the IC cover from gouging it.
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Here's another question - applies to both the JCW silver standard IC cover and the GP IC cover... has anyone come up with a good way to either:
- Prevent the "stain" on the JCW logo from appearing from the rubber seal
- Protect the JCW logo in such a way that it isn't permanently stained? Like some kind of clear protective layer (such as the same material used for the "invisishield" bras). I imagine it would need to be heat resistant.
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Well, they have identical placement in theory, but in practice the foam strip can be sloppily routed on either part. I installed the later model duct on my vehicle with the stock intercooler but I’ve purchased a new foam strip to replace the original because it was stuck on in an uneven fashion. They really are the same part with some of the bracket rib ground down on the driver’s side so if you have the later model there is no need to get the GP IC cover. The foam will form-fit over the capture hump so no need to trim on that piece. The under hood insulation will need to be massaged in a couple of spots to prevent the IC cover from gouging it.
I have the later style air duct as the original style scratched the silver JCW intercooler cover and they were both replaced under warranty. Now if only the dealer would start selling the GP intercooler parts.
Last edited by MINIAC; 08-27-2007 at 02:35 PM.
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Here's another question - applies to both the JCW silver standard IC cover and the GP IC cover... has anyone come up with a good way to either:
- Prevent the "stain" on the JCW logo from appearing from the rubber seal
- Protect the JCW logo in such a way that it isn't permanently stained? Like some kind of clear protective layer (such as the same material used for the "invisishield" bras). I imagine it would need to be heat resistant.
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Now I need to get more details on the thermal coating for the IC to see if that is worth it.
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