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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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John Cooper Works Tuning Kit R56

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This is it...The wait it's almost over.


 
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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niiiice!!!
 
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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Tease!

I just called my dealer today and the parts manager suggested it was delayed until the 1st of September! I freakin' hope not!!!
 
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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So can this a factory configured option when available?

That is what I'm waiting to find out...
 
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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any quote for price w/ install?
 
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by chili_red07
any quote for price w/ install?
Already announced elsewhere: $2100 + 2 hours labor + tax (where applicable).
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 05:17 AM
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Already announced elsewhere: $2100 + 2 hours labor + tax (where applicable).
The MSRP is around $2100...will depend on the dealer,( only 75 kits on national freeze)...the Install its a bit tricky you may need new spark plugs which you will get charged for, you also may need to have your original software upgraded to the latest which is about 3.5 hours of download time, and then the new software can be installed. the exhaust airbox and sticker and badge application will be around 2.5 hours, so i will say more like 5 or 6 hours, being conservative.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 06:19 AM
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So if its certified to be installed, how is it??? Is it reflashed and everything yet?
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 06:45 AM
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I cant wait to see how much diff that ecu makes, full alta exaust vs this, and this is extreemly expensive for what they do
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by diablito
The MSRP is around $2100...will depend on the dealer,( only 75 kits on national freeze)...the Install its a bit tricky you may need new spark plugs which you will get charged for, you also may need to have your original software upgraded to the latest which is about 3.5 hours of download time, and then the new software can be installed. the exhaust airbox and sticker and badge application will be around 2.5 hours, so i will say more like 5 or 6 hours, being conservative.
Why new spark plugs? They would be included in the kit if neded,isn't it?
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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I spoke to my dealer some time ago and he told me I could just get the re-flash because of my cars current mods, so I ask, would the 3.5hrs of download time be considered 3.5hrs of their time? If so, that's going to be $380.00. I wonder what the gain is going to be
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Klasse Act
I spoke to my dealer some time ago and he told me I could just get the re-flash because of my cars current mods, so I ask, would the 3.5hrs of download time be considered 3.5hrs of their time? If so, that's going to be $380.00. I wonder what the gain is going to be
for real? is there some price to get the flash map on top of the time to reflash?

I dont think it's 3.5 hours of download time, they had mine reflashed real fast
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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My dealer has done ECU updates under warranty so far. I haven't paid for one yet. Why would I be charged to update to prep for this kit? I think that's BS.

I plan on paying MSRP + two hours and tax. I plan to write them a check BEFORE the work is done after we've agreed on the pricing specifics. If it's any more than that or I can't pay for the kit up front, I would find a dealer that will take my money up front and at least charges what BMW/MINI suggests. If they take 6-7 hours figuring it out... too bad. Thier dime, not mine.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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so uhm...2100 for a muffler, new airbox and emblems? sounds lame :/
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ninja_van1sh
so uhm...2100 for a muffler, new airbox and emblems? sounds lame :/
plus you have to have someone to put it on for you...AND pay for it ...Oh and the software, thats right ...what's a silly muffler and air box will do with no programing...
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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still sounds rediculous. only benefit is it maintains warranty :/

id like to see what 3rd party chip tuners can do...if they ever get back to us

Originally Posted by diablito
plus you have to have someone to put it on for you...AND pay for it ...Oh and the software, thats right ...what's a silly muffler and air box will do with no programing...
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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still sounds rediculous. only benefit is it maintains warranty :/

id like to see what 3rd party chip tuners can do...if they ever get back to us
ONLY benefit is that it maintains the factory warranty huh? OK. Apparently those extra 20 ponies do nothing for you.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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ONLY benefit is that it maintains the factory warranty huh? OK. Apparently those extra 20 ponies do nothing for you.

I would love to see it on a DYNO before and after.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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I would think a "before and after" test would be in order. before I would hand over approx. $2300 bucks. It does sound real expensive for a Muffler, air filter ecu and a bunch of stickers. I'm feeling a bit skeptical about the 20 horses.

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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by rattmobbins
ONLY benefit is that it maintains the factory warranty huh? OK. Apparently those extra 20 ponies do nothing for you.
I was not aware of an exaust invalidating a waranty

I am aware that a full exaust is more 1000 $ cheaper than the JCW catback, and has bigger gains


I'm looking forward to dyno's
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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ONLY benefit is that it maintains the factory warranty huh? OK. Apparently those extra 20 ponies do nothing for you.

well im more than sure a 3rd party vendor will able to up that easily.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 05:12 AM
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According to my dealer there are only 2 things that will kill my warranty on various parts.

A) Replacing the Breaks with non Mini Approved Parts
B) Doing any internal work to the Engine(i.e. Injectors, sleeves, turbo..etc). Exhausts, intakes, springs, coils, etc are fair game.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 05:12 AM
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replacing the brake pads voids waranty?

I think not
 
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 05:54 AM
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Ok what I meant was replacing the Calipers or the Discs.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mega72
replacing the brake pads voids waranty?

I think not
A picky dealer could claim your non MINI pads caused excessive rotor wear or caliper damage or basically anything and then you are on the hook for the repair and the fight with them and/or MINI USA.

Most dealers aren't like that but they can and often do change the rules and move the goal posts all at the same time.

As for price a decent exhaust is what, 1 grand at least installed on the car and if they ever get an ECU flash it will be 400 +, maybe more initially because of the need to recoup some R & D costs. Aftermarket could get you very close to the JCW price with limited warranty recourse. I'm leaning towards the kit because in this initial period it's the safest option. By the middle of this car's cycle the aftermarket will be like the R53 market and then it would make sense to go that way IMO.
 
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