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Old 09-02-2008, 12:24 PM
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Took my '08 MCSa to E-town,NJ coupla weeks back >>

and was only able to post a 15.49 @ 88 mph. See my timeslip pic and a car pic:

http://z32racing.50megs.com/Z/_mini/...mini_15_49.jpg

http://z32racing.50megs.com/Z/_mini/...i_20080821.jpg

Is this normal for a bone stock '08 MCSa?

BTW, I am a veteran at the dragstrip with about almost 10 years of bracket racing experience.
 
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your links are not working my friend
 
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i think I saw you there 3 weeks ago, but I didnt have my MINI with me. If I remember correctly your fastest shifts should come by turning on the sport button, and slap shifting the stick in manual mode. Was the DSC coming on at all ?
 
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Ahh...the nuts will have fun with you!
 
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Old 09-03-2008, 05:45 AM
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i think I saw you there 3 weeks ago, but I didnt have my MINI with me. If I remember correctly your fastest shifts should come by turning on the sport button, and slap shifting the stick in manual mode. Was the DSC coming on at all ?
Yeah, I figured that I would have to shift manually. I left it in DRIVE cause this was my first time out with the MINI and I needed to learn how this thing behaves off the line. So with the street tires it just spun like mad with the DSC turned off. And with it on, it did bog off the line cause I think the DSC kicked in when it detected the spin. But this way still netted better 60 ft times.

So next time out, dunno when yet, I plan on having drag radials, DSC turned off, and slap shifting. We'll see if I can dip into the 14's.
 
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Old 09-03-2008, 05:46 AM
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Ahh...the nuts will have fun with you!
Huh?

I can interpert that statement quite a few ways.
 
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Originally Posted by Arnel
Yeah, I figured that I would have to shift manually. I left it in DRIVE cause this was my first time out with the MINI and I needed to learn how this thing behaves off the line. So with the street tires it just spun like mad with the DSC turned off. And with it on, it did bog off the line cause I think the DSC kicked in when it detected the spin. But this way still netted better 60 ft times.

So next time out, dunno when yet, I plan on having drag radials, DSC turned off, and slap shifting. We'll see if I can dip into the 14's.
Well, you already know to do what I was going to advise. I was able to hit 14.85 w/a manual. I've heard of as low as 14.65 out of an auto, somewhere in the 14.7s should be totally doable. Modulate the throttle and let us know how you do.
 
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Old 09-07-2008, 03:46 PM
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Nice to see you having fun with those R56's
 
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Im going to be taking mine down to E town within the next couple weeks. I was going to head down tomorrow night with a friend (900hp viper) but I gotta work.
If anyone is up for meeting up down there, let me know.
 
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89 Octane may be pulling some timing as well, since the car is designed to run on at least 91. I'd also turn DSC off, and modulate the wheelspin yourself with the gas pedal and manually keeping it in 1st gear (so that it doesn't prematurely shift up into 2nd when you slightly lift). DSC may give you a better 60' time, but if it's making the car fall on it's face and not recover quick enough, then it's hurting the rest of your run.

High temps, high humidity, and low barometric pressure can also cause a car to perform worse than most would expect.

Have fun with your next test and tune!
 
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Originally Posted by Dan00Hawk
89 Octane may be pulling some timing as well, since the car is designed to run on at least 91. I'd also turn DSC off, and modulate the wheelspin yourself with the gas pedal and manually keeping it in 1st gear (so that it doesn't prematurely shift up into 2nd when you slightly lift). DSC may give you a better 60' time, but if it's making the car fall on it's face and not recover quick enough, then it's hurting the rest of your run.

High temps, high humidity, and low barometric pressure can also cause a car to perform worse than most would expect.

Have fun with your next test and tune!
Thanks for the advice. Can't wait to get back out to the dragstrip.
 
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Old 09-16-2008, 01:15 AM
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Bad News For You

Your 60 foot was 2.27 that is very very good it will not get better than that auto or manual so if you held the accelerator down after that it was pretty much up to the car . I have been to the track several times with my R56 Auto and my best is 14.88 @ 92.5 I have got the same 60 same everything but the turbo just did'nt want to cooperate and on the same day have run as slow as 15.9 @ 83.00. That is stock corolla MPH. Your driving was fine believe me from much experience with this car the auto for some reason does not like full acceleration for a full 15 seconds most times the car at some point goes flat. I have run 2 passes in the high 14's and a few in the high 15's most had the same time and trap speed in the 1/8th. but most times after that it gives up.

I have a theory of oil pressure and oil temp not being optimum when staging for a long time and then immediately making a full pass. The car will not cooperate

I have a gtech pro and when I drive the car normally and then make a quarter mile pass not like at the track my car runs 14.8 to 15.2 over and over.

Hope this sheds some light. I since have installed the JCW Tuning Kit just recently available I have not made it to the track but my Gtech has been calibrated at the track on my car. I ran an all time best14.68 @ 93.1 with only a 2.3 60 so the kit does help. The car still has it's inconsistency as the new ECU tune did not solve the problem.

Just so no one says it is my driving. I ran my manual 2005 360 HP steeda mustang GT over and Over between a 13.1 and 13.3 so I think if the car was not inconsistant I could run an auto 170 HP car even more consistently but the car just is not capable. Maybe not all R56 S auto cars are like this but I am glad someone else experienced the good 60 foot start with a terrible MPH. Just for the record my mustang on a high end street tire only 60 foot best 2.0 so 2.2 for a 15 second car is excellent.
 

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DEROSI ran a 14.68 with the JCW auto.
 
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I would not say that just yet

I have been to the track several times but I have only had the JCW Tuning Kit for a week.

Although I have calibrated my Gtech @ the track I only use it as a estimate for what the car is doing. I have not run my car with the JCW Kit at the track.So I will not say I ran a 14.68 just yet until I actually do it at the track. I should be going in October so I will keep you posted.
 
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Originally Posted by Derosi
I have been to the track several times but I have only had the JCW Tuning Kit for a week.

Although I have calibrated my Gtech @ the track I only use it as a estimate for what the car is doing. I have not run my car with the JCW Kit at the track.So I will not say I ran a 14.68 just yet until I actually do it at the track. I should be going in October so I will keep you posted.
The more I drive mine the better it gets. Are you noticing the same thing? I have 300 miles on my Stage 1 kit now.
I'm going to try to make it to Capital drag strip tomorrow eve.
 
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:17 AM
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I have 250 miles

I have not noticed an improvement after about 50 miles. Let me know how you do. My experience with the car for making the best pass is Sport Button On, ASC Off, launch at 2200 and let the car do the shifting. I ran a 2.2 60 foot and that is the best I could get on F1 GS-D3 goodyears. I think without a tire that is as low as it will get. Don't be surprised if you only run 14.8 to 15.0 on a perfect pass. It seems the kit only increases 1/4 one tenth. Is it just me or does it feel like the car lost some grunt from 1500 - 3000 RPM. I can definately feel an increase in power from 5200-6500 with the kit. I think the loss of low end but increase of top end from a dead stop is almost a wash and that is why 0-60 and quarter mile increased so little.. JCW took some low end out to help with torque steer. From a roll the kit makes the car feel alot faster because you only notice the increase up top but not the loss down low.
 
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Hey Derosi, is she feeling quicker now? I have 400 miles on my kit and the torque is soooo sweet.
 
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I just went to my very first Drag show in Etown (Evo vs. WRX), I did see a black MINI out there but got distracted by the karts near entrance and did not see run. So, auto and 6-speed run around the same times?
 
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I love this thread. I feel like I'm with my brothers.

Most lame-brained NAM statement ever: "Automatic MCS drivers lose all feel for the road." Good grief the arrogant idiocy!!

And a ?: Is it really faster shifting to slap the stick to and fro, or use the paddles? On the road, the paddles seem faster, and I love keeping both hands on the wheel for max control (and torque steer).

I love you guys. Keep those autos rockin and the stick-heads sweatin
 
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Track Update

I ran a 14.56 @ 96.9 2.1 60 foot

Current Mods - JCW Tuning Kit, M7 boost Tubes, JCW smooth inlet tube, Itg filter.


I also ran AutoX with my auto and beat 3 R53 manuals and 2 R56 manuals the two R56 manuals had LSD's not sure about the R53's. So much for needing a stick. I ran 1:17 but I will admit a nearly stock JCW factory car manual of coarse did run 1:16 and post the fastest mini time of the day.

Just some inspirado for the Auto Crowd
 
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Originally Posted by Derosi
I ran a 14.56 @ 96.9 2.1 60 foot....I also ran AutoX with my auto and beat 3 R53 manuals and 2 R56 manuals the two R56 manuals had LSD's not sure about the R53's. So much for needing a stick. I ran 1:17 but I will admit a nearly stock JCW factory car manual of coarse did run 1:16 and post the fastest mini time of the day. Just some inspirado for the Auto Crowd
Im inspired! I tell noobs that MCS autos regularly trounce MCS manuals in most stock level competitions and they refuse to believe. I guess old perceptions die hard.

Did any of the auto-x R53/56 manuals have upgraded clutches and flywheels? reason I ask is that Ive been to a few events as a spectator, where the pungent smell of toasted LuK clutches filled the air...
 
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Not sure

I did not speak much to the R53 guys so I don't know but one of the cars had the pulley changed because the supercharger was screaming. I have no idea about their flywheels or clutches.
 
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why are you running 89 octane.,.?
 
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Originally Posted by vmk82
why are you running 89 octane.,.?
I think that was during the months of almost $5.00 a gallon for gas around here in NYC. I just so happen to had put in 89 octane the week before. But don't worry, I run the highest octante possible now no matter the price.
 


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