Yeah, looks like some have already been effected with an over-inflated sense of impotence and just like to post for the heck of it

Kenchan, I already PM'd ImagoX about the error, looks like some missed that point and I wasn't going to bring it up in thread again, but thanks for pointing that out since I don't want anyone to jump to conclusions about my personal state of being (however, I guess its not a bad idea to discuss since the products don't address it anyway and some might not think about it and acutally the doctors do not really discuss anything like that much, they just seem tell you to avoid sushi, alcohol, rodents and cat poo ).

 

And just an aside to Mr. Pep'r , regarding not mentioning mini552's silly post, I figured I already mentioned something about the people making the topic silly and all so I just didn't see the point in stating anything about something so obviously goofing about the issue. I won't go on about yours or anyone else's remarks right now except to say that I am sorry if you felt you were being picked on. I understand the point you were making and as I had said I know the world is filled with hazards, I just wanted to know more about these products. I can't speak to whatever someone else might have said that bothered you but I hope its just water under the bridge at this point - cheers

 

I hope the bickering is over in this thread The topic is a valid one, and should be discussed

Remember, we are all into keeping our MINI's looking good, and this forum is a place to help each other.

Mark

 

Agreed. On both counts.

 

The water is under the bridge.

 

No hard feelings, "bubble-boy"

 

Sorry all for only now catching up with NAM this week. This is such a long thread with numerous points, but I'll try to summarize my thoughts as well as some facts to share from DP and Prima's perspective as best as I can.

Although I can certainly understand the points being made by those who think we can't become paranoid and stop living our lives because of the world's dangers, I think eVal does have a very valid question that should be answered seriously.

Although MSDSs aren't actually required unless the product is used in a commercial environment (it's an OSHA regulation, so only pertains to places where employees are handling the product), 1) most products are at one time used in a commercial environment, and 2) most manufacturers just make them anyway- just in case. So, MSDSs can be requested for just about any product out there.

MSDSs can be very helpful because they are required to state if known hazardous chemicals are used, as well as how to handle the chemicals.

So if one has a question about whether or not a product contains hazardous chemicals, they should definitely request an MSDS. Having said that, if you are high risk for any reason, I would suggest doing things which have already been suggested like making sure to have proper ventilation, etc. even if the MSDS doesn't make mention of such things.

MSDSs do not require that proprietary chemical formulas be stated. In fact, they don't have to say anything about chemicals which are not classified as hazardous. The intention is to make sure any hazardous chemicals are identified and that there are recommendations for handling them. If you want to know more info about specific non-hazardous chemicals in a product, I suggest just asking.

The good news is that most modern products really have very little in them in terms of anything known to be hazardous, if at all, especially when compared to most everything else we come into contact with. I personally think that if you're concerned and/or have reason to be concerned, just read up and use sensible precautions. If you're not concerned nor have reason to be, then that's your choice too!

By the way, all of Zymol's enthusiast line (not the junk you can buy at a general merchandise store, etc), is made from 100% natural sources (ie, banana oil, palm oils, etc). Of course, not that everything "natural" is good for you, but that's another topic! Just thought I'd mention that though in case it's important to you.

-Heather

 

Heather has class... She doesn't have to say anything nice about Zymol at all (she'd be perfectly justified simply to remain silent on a competetor's product) and yet she mentions the above...

1 million non-redeemable Brownie Points to Heather! Huzzah!

 

Thanks much for the post Heather!