I thought if you layered carnuba you run the risk of it spider webbing, or am I just having false memories

Nxt does make the whole thing simple to me. 6 weeks since the last wax, with 2 sprays of the booster spray wax since. And I have to wash my MINI almost everyday because of bugs. Water still beads up in perfect circles, things wash right off, and the shine is still good. It does not feel as slick, but next week I stop working 12-14 hours a day, so a full,cleaner/ clay/wax is in order.

Oh, I too confess that my MINI is dirty today

 

Hi, sorry but not true simply because there are no solvents in the pure carnuabas like Pinnacle Souveran. Liquid caruabas are another issue.

There are numerous references throughout the lnternet to the current practice of using a synthetic sealer first (e.g., Klasse all-in-one being both a cleaner and sealer) followed by pure carnuaba over it the next day and then a second coat a day later. You need to separate the days for the Carnuba to harden (i.e., cure). There is also the Law of Diminishing Returns in that after three layers it probably isn't adding much but supposedly show cars are getting 15 - 20 layers. I'm not going to quote multiple sources but here is just one

"Show Car Tricks
Detailers that prepare show cars will often layer a carnauba wax on top of a synthetic wax. The synthetic wax acts as a gloss layer, while the carnauba wax adds depth and a wet-looking appearance. ... Apply and buff the first coat of wax as you would normally, and allow it to cure for 12 to 48 hours. Follow with a second coat. Note that the first coat of wax must have time to cure. If the wax does not cure (harden), the second coat will not improve your car's appearance or protection. ... Adding more layers is a subjective matter, although many concours winners use multiple layers to produce the desired depth."


http://articles.autopia.org/index.ph..._v2&id=25&c=16

I did layer another coat tonight ... seeing it was over 90 degrees and no rain today, and it made a difference. As much a difference as the wax over the Klasse? NO. But it was a Deep liquid look.

Will I do another, no way. I got to mow the lawn ...

 

If your using NXT see http://www.meguiars.com/faq/index.cf...ection=_14#_14

Bottom line is that you can layer pure waxes up to where you get Dimishing Returns ... which makes sense unless you are totally obsessed and just want to put layer over layer over layer, etc.

 

Thanks

 

Woah there -- down boy!

My post wasn't meant to be condescending -- some people like fondling their cars, some don't. That's all. I compared you to my mother, for buddhas sake, and I don't make a habit of condescention with my mum

It just seems like you're trying to convince others (and this is going both ways) that your method is hands down better. Others have had different experiences.

Move along.

 

Not at all. I could care less what others do. I know there are two camps here and they will always be zeolots. Its hard to find emperical facts or objective tests in a sea of people's "opinions" that are all subjective.

.... I was looking for an answer to: "do you think what the dealer did was synthetic or carnuba?"

BRG got it right. I learned a lot. Some things I didn't know.

I'm happy now ... No longer an issue.

thanks

 

Agranger, YOU the man! (or woman )

New pic. Forget about it being mostly out of focus but I ran out in a thunderstorm to get this tonight.



Look basically, on the bottom right quadrant. Beads are perfectly circular just like you said. Toward the top of the quadrant is the slant in the roof and the beads are literally "sliding" down the bonnet.

For contrast, look at the black sticker which I did not wax (because I wasn't sure if it was OK to wax the vinyl and the beading is irregular like before). However, I did wax the CF and those beads ARE circular and far apart.

Wow, what a difference. The perfectly circular beads were everywhere and I find it interesting that we just had a major thunderstorm and it looks like part of the metal isn't even wet at all, as if the water just clumped into beads.

I learned a lot from you guys.

Thank you :smile: