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Old May 2, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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Good or bad idea? Clay with Porter Cable??

I saw this on properautocare.com. Is this a good idea or not worth the money? Always looking for new ingenious ways to make life easier. Laziness IS the mother of invention.

http://www.properautocare.com/popadclap.html
 
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Old May 2, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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griot's sells one like that too. i dont use it.

first off my cars aren't that dirty and only light app of clay is
needed.

you can't clay in tight spots so you end up doing it by hand anyway.

clay needs to be turned, kneeded... that's a pita to put it back into that
little holder each time. i bet it plops out too when you put too much QD
on it.

i can think of other reasons why i dont plan to get it.
 
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Old May 2, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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That's what I was thinking...

How long does it take to clay a Mini anyway??? And what if the sponge gets something abrasive in it? Thanks for the quick response. It caught my eye when I ordered the porter-cable but had nagging doubts about it.
 
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Old May 2, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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no more than 10-15min for me.

yah, i can think of many reasons why not to use it...
 
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Old May 2, 2008 | 04:22 PM
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no more than 10-15min for me.
Seriously? It took me about 40 mins. the last time I clayed Geoffrey's entire body + roof.

I also had to drag out a chair to do the roof.. but that's only because I'm barely 5 feet tall.
 
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Old May 2, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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Yeah it takes me a long time to clay, but having PW, I take the opportunity while claying to get off every little speck I can see. I also only do it 2 or 3 times a year and just do the whole car while I'm at it.
 
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Old May 2, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Takes me less than 1/2 hour. One benefit of having a cabrio top, 18" clearbra, and stripes is there's not much left to clay.
 
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Old May 2, 2008 | 07:58 PM
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Oh, I clay my clearbra. I clay my glass. I clay anything that's not black plastic.
 
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Old May 2, 2008 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MLWagner79
Oh, I clay my clearbra. I clay my glass. I clay anything that's not black plastic.
Me too.
 
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Old May 2, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by leslie
Me too.
Then we can be the slowpoke clayers.
 
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Old May 2, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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Two weekends ago I clayed and Waxed my MINI in 35 min, then while the wax was drying I did a friends MINI in about the same amount of time. However, I clay my MINI frequently to keep build up down, so it doesn't take me that long.
 
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Old May 3, 2008 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by leslie
Seriously? It took me about 40 mins. the last time I clayed Geoffrey's entire body + roof.

I also had to drag out a chair to do the roof.. but that's only because I'm barely 5 feet tall.
yah, my cars have very little contaminants to begin with so i just work
on mainly the boot, kickup area, and maybe a few spots on the front
and top surfaces.

especially on a cool day i just spray a fairly large section of the panel,
take my palm sized chunk of clay and just work in. there's really not
much that gets attached to my clay.

the in-law's car i did last weekend took a while...like almost an hr.
that car had lots of rust spots, tar from who knows when, etc. and
the Prima clay didnt want to knead well in the cooler temps. that
was wat took 1/2 of the time...trying to knead it. i should've just used
my griot's mud and saved my Prima clay for a warmer day.
 
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Old May 5, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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For a MINI that is a few years old, that sits parked outside at night (not garaged) and never been clayed, it takes me approximately 2 hours to wash, clay, dry, tape a MINI. So that would be approximately 45 minutes to 1 hour to clay it until it's perfectly free of bonded contaminants.

I've seen this PC clay attachment and think it's a pretty ridiculous solution BECAUSE:

1.) you need to feel the paint as you clay so you know what needs to be clayed
2.) you need to keep the paint well lubricated and you can feel how effective the clay is working and when you need more lube
3.) If you pick off a piece of contaminant--a bug or chip--you won't know with this tool if you're scratching your paint to hell or not. By hand you can feel it and knead the clay.
4.) The clay needs to be kneaded frequently to expose fresh clay

Btw, I tried the Griots clay at MOTD, and it's some of the crappiest clay I've ever tried. It's brittle and your fingers turn yellow from the dye....

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Old May 5, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by OctaneGuy
Btw, I tried the Griots clay at MOTD, and it's some of the crappiest clay I've ever tried. It's brittle and your fingers turn yellow from the dye....

Richard
bittle? you mean soft like mud, right? yah, you need to
wear those disposable gloves when you do the griot's clay on a warm
day (or warm hands).

going go try some meg's mild clay next time around.
 
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Old May 5, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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Well the owner just bought the clay from the big tent at MOTD and attended my class. We took the yellow bar out and broke it in half--immediately noticing it was crumbly. We divided that half again, and each of us kneaded them into little *****. Eventually it became soft and pliable after a lot of kneading, and then that's when we noticed our hands were yellow.

So we put the clay back into the jar, and pulled out the Meguiar's Blue Clay, and we both noticed how our fingers didn't turn blue, how the clay was easy to knead and wasn't crumbly when broken into chunks.

I can't wear gloves when I clay--I want to be able to feel the paint and caress it as I work, lol....it's the old condom debate you know?? It just feeeeeels better without the rain coat right?
Originally Posted by kenchan
bittle? you mean soft like mud, right? yah, you need to
wear those disposable gloves when you do the griot's clay on a warm
day (or warm hands).

going go try some meg's mild clay next time around.
 
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Old May 6, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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Richard! This is a family forum!

Loving this thread.
 
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Old May 6, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by OctaneGuy
Well the owner just bought the clay from the big tent at MOTD and attended my class. We took the yellow bar out and broke it in half--immediately noticing it was crumbly. We divided that half again, and each of us kneaded them into little *****. Eventually it became soft and pliable after a lot of kneading, and then that's when we noticed our hands were yellow.

So we put the clay back into the jar, and pulled out the Meguiar's Blue Clay, and we both noticed how our fingers didn't turn blue, how the clay was easy to knead and wasn't crumbly when broken into chunks.

I can't wear gloves when I clay--I want to be able to feel the paint and caress it as I work, lol....it's the old condom debate you know?? It just feeeeeels better without the rain coat right?

yah, something's definitely wrong with that Griot's clay. it should be
soft, i mean real soft... so soft they advertise that it wont remove wax.
which i could careless cause i wax afterwards anyway. but
shouldn't break apart like that.

i do need to try that Meg's blue clay. as soon as im done with my
Griot's clay that's wat im ordering.

yah, no comment on the rain coat issue.. although i must agree.
oh wait, that is a comment.
 
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Old May 6, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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Meguiar's blue clay rocks. And actually, I bought a couple of things of Four-Star clay on clearance from somewhere and it's not bad either.
 
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Old May 6, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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^^ thanks, always good to have several reinforcements.
 
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