Hi all,

So I would count myself as an Epic and Hydro guy - dont do crazy long detailing - though I think it's about time foor me to work off some of the swirls in my car before I do another layer of anything.

I need to buy new Epic, but am wondering about changing to the Blackfire midnight sun ( I have a Chili Red car) and still using Hydro'ing after it.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Neil

 

no thoughts??

 

I'm not familiar with that product. Is it a carnuba or a synthetic? i'll admit you will get a warmer look with carnuba but i like the longevity of synthetics. personally i prefer Epic to Zaino. but that's a personal chice.

 

Their product name is longer. What exactly is Blackfire and how does it relate to midnight sun?

 

looks like the wax is carnauba but, marketed as a topper for a synthetic sealant?

are you looking for more depth on your red MINI? if you like prima but want a deeper look you can add an carnauba topper. i do that with a carnauba over klasse. gives it a nice deep look on top of the synthetic on my indi blue. i use s100 carnauba FWIW.

if you do try it let us know how it works.

 

hah - ok, thanks for the thoughts. I was looking at the midnight to bring a bit of "traditional" protection to the car as I generally have not used carnuba. I dont know if it was depth or shine I was looking for, I guess I want both! I was interested in the Midnight being described as perfect for red cars - hence why I wanted to know if folks had used it!

 

Forget the marketing. The proof is in the pudding. Here's a NAM members CR Cooper--he clayed and Epic'd it only. No polishing.

 

+1

OG's pic says it all IMO. The longevity of Epic trumps the warm look of carnuaba waxes for me, not to mention the glossy shine it produces.

 

isn't that Calogero's?

 

Nope that's Bruiser---belongs to a NAM and MU member, Paul.

Calogero's MINI looks like this:

 

I currently use M21 and am awaiting my Epic in due time.

The picture is what made me want to switch. I posted that all over SCD once I read that thread about Richard detail.

I haven't pulled my MINI out yet. Soon though.

 

That's right! I forgot that you posted that, lol. Now I understand the confusion. Epic is awesome! Check out what Epic on BRG looks like on my OctaneGuy Recent Details thread from yesterday.