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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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Beken- the griot's clay is super soft. It turns almost muddy soft when you keep applying QD (as you're suppose to) and it sticks to your hands, under nails, etc a pretty yellowy mess. but I started wearing those disposable gloves griots sells and I'm fine.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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Well, after hearing all of this I'm going out to get some clay right now!
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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Sounds good!
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
Beken- the griot's clay is super soft. It turns almost muddy soft when you keep applying QD (as you're suppose to) and it sticks to your hands, under nails, etc a pretty yellowy mess. but I started wearing those disposable gloves griots sells and I'm fine.
I love those gloves...aloe is great for my hand. Wait, I mean..
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by S Curvz
I love those gloves...aloe is great for my hand. Wait, I mean..
yep! makes my oil changes a breeze too.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
yep! makes my oil changes a breeze too.
Yeah. That and brake jobs...but you generally need more than one pair. Good thing they are cheap.

I have been tempted to get the holder just to hang on the wall.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
Beken- the griot's clay is super soft. It turns almost muddy soft when you keep applying QD (as you're suppose to) and it sticks to your hands, under nails, etc a pretty yellowy mess. but I started wearing those disposable gloves griots sells and I'm fine.
YAK I think I will stick to my Meg's clay. That Sonus clay I tried was sticky crap & I am not going thru another nightmare claybar session like that again. Meg's holds shape nicely & no mess
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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Got it. Went back to the same Godforsaken Autozone just to see if the guy was there. He wasn't. I'll be claying tomorrow....first time. Any heads up tips?
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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which megs clay? I hated there white clay, it was hard to kneed and stuck to the paint.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by S Curvz
Yeah. That and brake jobs...but you generally need more than one pair. Good thing they are cheap.

I have been tempted to get the holder just to hang on the wall.
yah, that red holder does look real nice. i just put that
kleenex box (the paper dispenser box it comes in) in my tool case.

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YAK I think I will stick to my Meg's clay. That Sonus clay I tried was sticky crap & I am not going thru another nightmare claybar session like that again. Meg's holds shape nicely & no mess
PrimaClay is also real nice. i like how it doesn't fly out of my hands too.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by S Curvz
which megs clay? I hated there white clay, it was hard to kneed and stuck to the paint.
My Meg's clay was white. I used it with their QD & it glided effortlessly, no streaking, no sticking, was a breeze

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PrimaClay is also real nice. i like how it doesn't fly out of my hands too.
I may try theirs one day but I am a bit gunshy to stray from my Meg's again after the Sonus clay debacle
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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Got it. Went back to the same Godforsaken Autozone just to see if the guy was there. He wasn't. I'll be claying tomorrow....first time. Any heads up tips?
make sure you use QD or water with it, do a 12x12 or 15x15" section
at a time, wipe the QD/water before it dries.

if you drop it, toss it. dont risk scratching your finish.

i use a half dollar sized chunk per app.

after you're done, spray some QD in a ziploc baggie or sealed container
and store it until next time (including the fresh unused portion too...best
to use a separate baggie for the fresh chunk).

if the clay turns an ugly gray color it's time to toss it and use a new
chunk.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bamatt
I may try theirs one day but I am a bit gunshy to stray from my Meg's again after the Sonus clay debacle
i think octaneguy has a bunch of these and might be able to get you a
good deal(?) i know he bought like 12 bars last time.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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Thanks Kenchan.

A half-dollar sized chunk of clay per application? That's it? That's literally a little bit larger than a quarter.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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+1 The price is just right and it includes a good sized QD and quality MF.

Originally Posted by bamatt
YAK I think I will stick to my Meg's clay. That Sonus clay I tried was sticky crap & I am not going thru another nightmare claybar session like that again. Meg's holds shape nicely & no mess
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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another tip.... do not skimp on Qd and rub the clay with very little pressure. Keep it well lubricated and do not expect to remove stains on the first pass. It will require a lot more rubbing to remove stubborn stains.

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Thanks Kenchan.

A half-dollar sized chunk of clay per application? That's it? That's literally a little bit larger than a quarter.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by minimk3
another tip.... do not skimp on Qd...
+1, the clay should totally glide. If it sticks at all you are not using enough QD
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by minimk3
another tip.... do not skimp on Qd and rub the clay with very little pressure. Keep it well lubricated and do not expect to remove stains on the first pass. It will require a lot more rubbing to remove stubborn stains.

Agree'd I did mine last weekend, and the rear had and nice sand paper feel before I started. 3 hours later the car was like glass. I used the meg's and it took the whole bottle of quick detailer. Walmart has the meg clay bar kit for almost 10 bucks cheaper the autozone. To bad my windshield got cracked monday.....
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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FWIW - there's a fine line between enough lube and too much. If you use too much you will render the clay ineffective since it needs some friction to do the shearing that you use clay for. If the clay is grabbing as you pass it along the paint, you need more lube. If it glides effortlessly, you've used too much. Rather subtle and requires some practice.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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It must be a really fine line because when I clay it feels effortless but I know it's working because my finish feels draggy before & like smooth satin afterwards.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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Well I don't like to use QD because it makes lube that is too slick. If you have too much lube it will take more passes to treat the surface.
I prefer to use the wash water from my pre-clay wash and to do my clay work in the shade or in the garage. I just dip my clay in the wash water and clay a section. When it tries to grab or stick - more wash water.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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I love my lube Squirt lube, clay, wipe lube all around the MINI & in approx 30 mintues I'm done
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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Should I rub each small section dry as I go?
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bamatt
I love my lube


Maybe I just am having a long week but that totally cracked me up.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bamatt
I love my lube Squirt lube, clay, wipe lube all around the MINI & in approx 30 mintues I'm done
Go with that then!

Originally Posted by MINIFVR
Should I rub each small section dry as I go?
If you're talking about rubbing dry while using the clay - no. Once your lube begins to dry or thin out too much the clay will begin to grab and stick. If you're talking about drying the paint after each clayed section - no need since you will usually follow clay with a polish like Prima Swirl or Amigo. The polish step will remove residual clay and lube residue in preparation for the wax stage using, for example Prima Epic.
Check out: www.detailersparadise.com for some great products and even better advice.
 
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