Few months ago I started running low on my Zaino Z7 & Z6, and was not satisfied with my sheepskin mit. Off I went browsing the detailing forums.

Hmm Prima whats this? Detailers Paradise? Hydro?

After reading many threads, and deciding to make the switch to Prima (nothing wrong with the Zaino line I was just ready to try something new, plus Hydro sounded interesting), the order was placed. I got the super bundle, some p21s paint prep, Finish, Amigo and some pads. And nearly $300 later I'm super pleased with the products.

I had NO idea how poor my MF towels really were until I got my new ones, good grief. If you are going to buy MF towels get them at DP, it's money well spent.

Haven't had the time to do a full clay, polish, wax yet, but I will soon.
I've only used the Mystique, and Slick so far, and itching to get into the rest.

A couple questions,
1. Does Mystique normally make a lot of foam or not so much, I'm getting a bit less foam than I did with the Z7.

2. Can I get Slick in a calogne/air freshener/laundry detergent?

I will be sure to post pics when I get Luna all sparkly clean.

 

I'm a "don't like a lotta foam" person, so I put Mystique in the bucket AFTER the water and slosh it around to mix it in...I get zero suds. The only other wash I've really used is Meguiar's Soft Wash and it's REALLY sudsy so I don't have anything to really compare with. But I would say it's pretty low foam.

I prefer the smell of Hydro

 

+1 for Hydro.

suds don't really mean anything imho. it's the lubricity you are after.

 

First, thanks for your order! I'm glad to hear you're already enjoying your detailing goodies from us.

1) Your suds, or lack thereof, are consistant with Mystique's normal behavior. Mystique relies on other "lifting" chemicals to help with the dirt/grime removal, while concentrated lubricants reduce your scratch risk while you wash. Suds are not necessary for an effective and safe wash.
That said, some people just like seeing the suds, even when they know they aren't necessary. To each his/her own!

2) A friend of ours was going to put the Slick scent (which is based on Mojitos, btw) into candles for us at Christmastime, but we weren't sure if anyone would buy them so we decided against it. Perhaps we'll do an air freshener one day... Although I hadn't thought of a laundry detergent!

-Heather

 

heather- if you did a prima laundry detergent that smelled like slick, i would
keep washing it thinking the washing machine didn't do its job removing
slick from the MF towels. too confusing! jk

hehehehe. slick/wheel sheild combo has become my favorite for wheel
cleaning. oh wait, started to get off topic.

yah, it's lubricity you're after. (alignment tool line).

 

Ah yes! Good point! I could label it for non-MF laundering to avoid confusion.

-Heather

 

I actually would buy Slick and Hydro scented Wonder Wafers!

Wonder Wafers!

 

Ok, I just opened the Hydro to smell it. Is that normal?

Now it's a tossup between the smell of Slick and Hydro.

 

FWIW, and I saw this happen on Friday, suds can prevent particles and contaminants from sinking to the bottom of the bucket to be trapped by your Dirt Guard. Depending on how much suds you have, it not only traps them, but hides them! If you aren't careful, you could transfer them to your paint (from your wash mitt) and cause swirls and scratches without realizing it.

 

Really good point OG, never thought of that. I really don't care how many suds there are, just wasn't sure if I was using enough soap. I think I'll switch to ML's way of mixing up the wash water, I don't like the idea of reapplying the dirt to my car.

 

Every car wash soap has a recommended water to soap ratio. Meguiar's Gold Class Car Wash or NXT Car Wash is 1oz of soap to 1 gallon of water. So a 5 gallon bucket requires 5oz of soap.

Mystique is even more concentrated and uses 0.5oz of soap to 1 gallon, so you will need 2.5oz of soap for a 5gallon bucket of water.

There are different ways of measuring this out---a cheap method is to use a plastic dixie style cup and with a measuring cup, measure out 2.5oz of water. Then using a sharpie, mark the water level, and now you can use that cup to measure the proper to soap to water ratio.

For myself, I just use the plastic cups that come with laundry soap--the screw on caps that are measuring cups. I find they hold about 4.8oz of liquid, so for Mystique I fill them half way.

Richard

 

Ohh, good idea with the measuring cups.

 

this is very true. one more reason why i could careless about suds.
i pour soap in my washbucket and stream the water in to prevent suds.
it stirs up pretty well from the force of the water without much suds. i
take my hand and gently do a final stir and it's ready for use.

 

I use the cap on the Mystique bottle for measuring...2 caps full to a 5 gallon pail of water. Hmmm...never thought about the suds thing before (?). Just assumed it wasn't soap if it doesn't produce suds!

 

wow, that Mystique is some super high concentrate!!

how big is your cap? the regular 1gallon bottle cap?
i have to put like a full cup of Griot's CarWash (3 full pumps) for
my 5.5 gallons.

 

Looking at the cap, I don't think 2 cap fulls is nearly enough for the recommended 1 to 2 ounces to 5 gallons of water.

I just tried an unscientific method-since I don't have a good measuring tool right now and found I needed about 8 to 10 cap fulls to get close to about 2.5 ounces. Seems like you would need at minimum 4 cap fulls for the lowest recommended soap solution.

Heather???

Richard

 

yah, that's wat i thought too... more like 1oz per gallon or 2 gallons (griots)
or something, so should need much more than just 2 caps for the 5gals.

if you have an old laundry detergent cap, dats a good way to measure each
time.

 

Actually, IMO, the recommended amount is on the high side... it is written this way because most people would rather have a little too much soap than not enough.

In practice, I personally use 2 "good squirts" per 5 gallon bucket... now isn't that scientific?? It's probably pretty close to 3 capfuls.

Yes, Mystique is very concentrated. Per use, it's one of the least expensive (yet highest quality ) soaps on the market!

-Heather

 

Heh, I use the scientific "two good squirts" method too!

 

What kind of pump dispenser are you using for your Griot's soap? I'm using Griot's pump, and it puts out 0.8 fluid ounces per full pump. So, I use three full pumps, giving me almost 2.5oz of soap, which is just about right for a five-gallon bucket.

When you say "a full cup", do you mean that you're using 8 fluid ounces of soap (one "cup") with 5.5 gallons of water? That sounds like a lot - almost triple the recommended amount, in fact.

 

I decided to try the 2 good squirt method---would that be Heather's TGS Method? or H2GS Method??

And yielded about 2 to 2.5 ounces of soap.

 

Thanks for thinking of us nammers during your day OG, I will now be using the 2GS method and 5 gallons of water from now on. still need to order up a grit guard...dirt guard...crap catcher for my bucket.

Oh how I can't wait to get into that polish & wax.

 

I use all of the Prima products but I have just ordered the new Griot's wash bucket...It's really neat! It has built in Dirt guard grill, Molded in soap measuring cup, Mitt drain, large castors, form fitting handle, Snap on lid etc. A little expensive at $39.99 but I think it's worth it.

 

I recently purchased Hydro and Slick, but I'm not actually sure what Slick is used for.

 

hey, isn't that a laundry detergent measuring cup? if so, that was
MY idea!!!