this link speaks for itself.let me remind everybody. non s!



http://www.nolimitmotorsport.com/prod/MC2501-X

 

I like the idea ... my wife and I also looked at a Neon SRT4, it definantly had the MC beat on a performance level, but just wasn't near as much fun to drive. I found the seats in the SRT4 difficult to get in and out of.

This would certainly wake up the MC. I'd consider swapping out to a 6 spd though.

 

there is a reason why no one on this board with a cooper has a turbo. The tranny can not handle it. Unless you have the money to keep replacing the 5 speed or get your hands on a 6 speed, i would recomend staying away from it. I have heard of some succesful tests from reputable companies on some cars but its more work then just that kit. You still need all of your engine managment and injectors and a bunch of little stuff. Its more then you think. it would be much cheaper and more reliable to just get an S.

 

Somewhat true. The new Gertrag 5 speeds should be able to handle it. The problem would be the engine internals and the engine managment. Of course I don't feel my MCc is lacking in anything. Turbos? We don't need no stinking turbos!!!

 

HAHAHAHA

new getrag 5 speed can handle it, thats a good one.

I blew a 05 Getrag 5 speed in a cooper with hardly no mods. (Final drive split and blew to pieces)

If you plan on racing this car, i would stay FAR FAR away from any Cooper 5 speed!

 

Geez, Rick. You can let it go. I know it was traumatic, but you are the only getrag casualty I know of. Not to say that there are more, but you ARE the only one I heard of. Even Ford has a recall every now and then.

 

Much of it depends on how your drive... But, IMHO, the Midlands and the Getrag-5 would be fine with a small turbo - just don't wind it up and drop the clutch from every stoplight.

Personally, I'd love to see someone do it...

 

And, you'll find a LOT of people on here that will tell you what you can and cannot do... To them, I say BAH! because they haven't tested it themselves. There's a LOT of hearsay about what the Cooper is and isn't capable of... Some of us know - but most people really have no clue, most of all the S guys who like to invade over here and tell us how inferior our internals and trannies are...

 

Experience tells what people can and cannot do. There was a turbo'd cooper at the first AMVIV (late Feb 2004). From what I recall, it made about the same HP as a stock JCW'd MCS. Haven't seen it since!

 

You go ahead and put a turbo on one them.

At least my was a warranty fix beause the car wasnt modded.



try and pass off a turbo'd cooper with a blown tranny as a warranty item.

 

That would take a set of brass ones.

 

you shoulda seen me the first time my 05 was in for a broken axle....


"Yeah. I was just driving, and it broke." I got the evil eye, then got it fixed under warranty.

 

Which means? Maybe they don't like Vegas?

 

All you'd have to do would be to yank the turbo kit off, put on all the stock stuff, and have it towed in for the warranty work... They'd never know...

 

If only turbo kits were plug-and-play.

Put connector A into receptical B... and boom... 70 extra HP.

 

I didn't say it wouldn't be a LOT of work...

 

(sorry if that came out smart-a$$-ish... i was actually visualizing a plug and play turbo... and seriously how nice it would be)

 

What about a setup like these

http://www.ststurbo.com/

The Mini is a lot shorter than a Camaro or Mustang and 5-6 PSI shouldn't really hurt the internals or come on with so much torque to blow a tranny.

 

It,s not just the tranny that's a worry. The whole engine is not as sturdy as the S. the crank,push rods the pistons are not the same. As an non S owner I wish it was the same but it"s not. Plus this engines high compresion. Is not a good match with turbo. Then who would have an ECU rewright for it. If you want turbo. Trade in 2007. It will be cheeper and better.

 

looks like i hit a nerve on this topic. i'm sure this hasn't been the first time this has been discussed.fyi. i blew my tranny up after about 13,000 miles of beatin the snot out of it. i don't know what kind of tranny they replaced it with, but i hope it can take the type of strain i put on it.


03 cooper, k&n typhoon intake, borla exhaust,mini mania plasma booster, soon to be nology hotwires, and some badass koenig rims.

 

The motor would handle it ... just cause it isn't forged internals doesn't make it 'weak'. I ran 9psi on a 5.3 in my truck. The motor was turning 6600 rpms at the shift (5800 was stock REV LIMITER!). The tranny, I would have concerns about. THe instant torque of the blower I was running was killer on trannys.

I know this is an apples to oranges comaprason, and not really fair, but it proves the point that just cause you don't have forged internals doesn't make it impossible to do anything to. As long as you take care of the fueling, and spark, you won't have any problems. Horsepower doesn't kill, detonation kills motors!

STS's are JUNK. They are a bad idea on sooo many fronts I won't go there.

WIth 6 inches of ground clearance, and about 3 inches from the bottom line of the car and the floor pans, where are you gonna hide a turbo with prolly an 8" diameter?!

 

See, what everyone doesn't understand is that if I bought a "S", I would be tearing the internals out and andding a TC kit! I added it up and even with going with a 6-Speed, a MC+Big Turbo would still come out even if not the same as costs. And going Big Turbo yields bigger numbers. I'm gathering the money and parts up for the end of the year (if not middle of next) for this little project. But, I have great people to help me out on this. Unless, they are too busy now that they broke the sound-barrier. Dom, you know what I'm talking about.

 

There is a tidy spot right where the heatshield is.

 

If you want to go faster in your MC, then lose 20 pounds (if you can spare it) around your waist, remove the rear seats, remove all the extra junk in your car including your spare tire, make sure you got a good stiff aftermarket sway bar and springs, and learn to drive it hard but smooth and you'll be flying!!! I know this from experience. It really works!

 

We've been here and broke that two years ago. The tranny would not handle the added power. We also looked into the STS type turbo setup more commonaly known as a " remote turbo ". We found a spot for the turbo with no problems . The real issue is getting the return pipe back up to the engine and on a minor note running the oil lines for the turbo itself. Its doable but we decided not to persue the idea.

Randy
M7 Tuning