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Old Jan 9, 2018 | 01:41 PM
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I have I have a 2004 Mini Cooper base (non s) is it even possibly to swap “some” internet’s from the “S” to the basic Cooper engine?
 
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Old Jan 9, 2018 | 01:48 PM
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Sorry, but the “internets” are relegated to your computer or smart phone.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2018 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by njaremka
Sorry, but the “internets” are relegated to your computer or smart phone.
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Sorry I meant internal
 
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Old Jan 10, 2018 | 05:29 AM
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Why bother?
 
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 07:24 AM
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@Derek86 - that's helpful...


@Ankersen21 - you can. It's expensive and time consuming. The S internals are stronger then the non-s and can be swapped. Contact Revolution Motor Works as Jan is the only one that I have been able to find that has actually done this by making a few race proven R50's. He is blunt in his assessment and unless he is building the engine slightly hesitant in giving out his secrets.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 08:31 AM
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@Derek86 - that's helpful...
So is asking blind questions on the internet before you do your research.

I stand by my statement, why bother?
 
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Ankersen21
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Sorry I meant internal
If you're still planning on going NOx...

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...trous-mod.html

...you are approaching it correctly in seeking to beef up the internals.



But realistically speaking,
the monetary investment seems like it would be pretty steep and you could probably find a good shape supercharged MCS for equivalent money to the R50 mod engine rebuild.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 09:36 AM
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Why bother? Because it is the car that he/she has and she/he wants to modify it maybe? Why climb Mt Everest? Perhaps it's because you want to walk past dead bodies? Probably not. Probably for the challenge.


Finding out if the internals of the engines are swappable is harder than you might think as it is rarely done because it is cheaper and easier to just get an S. That notwithstanding, I believe this is doing some research. NAM is a good place to start, wouldn't you agree?


Why mod your S? It's fast enough. Handles well enough. Why bother? I suspect that you know a lot less about automotive engineering than the automotive engineers that engineered these cars, so, to you my good man, why bother with yours? (See how helpful that was? No very was it?)
 
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 11:09 AM
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Wow, I must have struck a cord.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 01:25 PM
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not really... okay kind of... Its just anytime anyone with a R50 asks to get information on modifying the car for more power the first response is always get and S. I have been hearing this since 2004. We are just looking for help and when the first response is to abandon all hope... well, not really the info that we were looking for. My last post was a bit snarky and I do apologize.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Thought of a good one
not really... okay kind of... Its just anytime anyone with a R50 asks to get information on modifying the car for more power the first response is always get and S. I have been hearing this since 2004. We are just looking for help and when the first response is to abandon all hope... well, not really the info that we were looking for. My last post was a bit snarky and I do apologize.
Understood, and I'm not upset about it. Asking questions about adding power to the car is one thing, blindly asking about rebuilding engines with different internals without any research or direction is asinine.


To the OP, do not abandon all hope because your car is natural aspirated. Definitely get ready to abandon the 5 speed though. And do your homework.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2018 | 02:07 PM
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If I was an R50 guy I would definitely go for this JCW tuning kit motor that was pointed out by AeroJammin
here:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post4363692

Very rare bits there and could be had for a reasonable price it seems!

And I'd look to the MINI Challenge cars for inspiration and probably try to find tuning part suppliers in the UK.



Looks like a blast with the field full of MINI's!



I think it's cool that some people prefer the naturally aspirated version and it's great to see them all modd'd up too!
 
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