i've been looking at the http://www.turbospecialties-race.com/
turbo kit for the cooper, and im just wondering if i'd have to change the engine internal if applying this kit? or if i can run it as it is on low boost offcourse?

what are your thoughts?

 

You might be able to run low boost (<5-7PSI) but it won't be worth it. That kit doesn't even have an intercooler. Someone posted that link awhile ago and the consensus was that aftermarket R50 turbo kits are a waste and a danger. If you want a turbo R50, source a used motor and redo it: lower compression JE's, head work, cam, gonna for sure need a lot of ECU work. If you want a turbo MINI, buy an R53 and either twin charge it or convert to a single. Or take the really easy way out and buy a '56. But don't bother with those things, whatever you do.

 

hehe okay great thanks, the only problem is that i live in Denmark, and we have really high taxes etc.. also car prices caused by some goverment **** rules so i actually paid 19.000£ for my r50 and that is even considered a good prices in Denmark.. :s

 

I agree. Your best bet is to get S internals and forged pistons, then you could handle a real turbo.

 

BTW, what year is your car? Do you have the getrag or the midlands transmission?

 

My i car is from november 2003. Im not sure which transmission i have but if i'd have to guess the getrag?

well i just got a mail, from the http://www.turbospecialties-race.com/
he says as following:

Q: Okay well i've been doing some research and the commen opinion on this seems to be that the R50 engine cannot handle the power from the turbo, they say i need to change alot of my internals.. what is your opinion on this? will i need to change any thing for this to run properly, or is it designed to run on the standard engine without breaking anything in the long run also?

A:We have shiped many of these kits and found that the stock internals are fine as long as you keep the boost @ 6 lbs.

If you wish to increase boost up to say 12 lbs then you would need to change some internals.

The car should run OK for a long time as long as you maintain it and don't drive it like a race car all the time.

 

You're still gonna want an intercooler and need to get a tune for this thing to survive any length of time.

 

Yea you might be right.. :D hehe guess its a case if "i wish" :D

 

Check your build date, but I'm pretty sure that all of the 02-03 have a midlands tranny. If that's the case, then your first major mod should be to a 6spd before you consider any kind of forced induction. There are lots of threads on the conversion...it's a lot of work, but worth it.

 

yes... it does worth it....

 

Question. If one had an S and were plan on upping the boost, I mean seriously upping, and would have to change the internals, one would have to tear down the engine? Correct.

The R50 and 53 are alike in everyway except the pistons, rods, ecu (duh) and better materials in the head. Er well and an extra oil injector on the S.

You can upgrade the internals of a 53 to handle increased boost. The parts that will fit the 53 can fit the 50.

Does anyone know where I'm going with this? hahah

All I'm saying is, if you are serious about it and want it, then do it.

Just do it.

 

Do it! You could also probably find S internals for decent prices...

 

hehe thanks guys.. :d

 

I do have an S engine... and the desire to turbo my car.... hmm...

 

what components do i need to change to my R50 to handle the boost increase!

 

lower compression stronger pistons, and depending on the amount of boost, the crankshaft, connecting rods, intercooler, the S head would probably help because of the better valvetrain, possibly an S hood to fit it all, clutch to handle the power, we'll see if the 5spd getrag can take it...I think that would be the bare minimum not including the turbo parts and tuning etc...you also may need to do a standalone ecu.

cheaper and easier to find a used engine and transmission on ebay from a wrecked car and swap both. You would still need to change the pistons though...even if you swap the s engine. Thats an assload of money!

 

How much is the kit?

Its funny it says it comes with a map kit too. i guess thats the tune you get with the kit.

 

On top of everything that would be needed, this kit is prolly not worth it. It says it's a T20 turbo, it would choke the motor.

 

Fuel for the fire.....

http://www.autofashion.co.uk/turbo_conversion.htm

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Just to clarify - posted for entertainment purposes only (mine) - I know nothing about these guys.

 

that kit is for a cooper s I think. The thread starter was asking about a Cooper.

 

What a coincidence, it tops out exactly at 200 hp.

 

Nope. There are 2 kits there for the MC and 2 for the MCS. The MCT 170 and 200 are for the Cooper and the 300 and 400 are for the S.

 

LOL that's funny... we went 10.6 @ 128 with the stock head. hmmmn...

wait a minute... my head is stock!!

that's UNPOSSIBLE!!! LOL

 

I just wish we could get some of your sort of magic for the rest of us rabble and our MCs. You know, something easy to use and apply and that actually makes a difference. There's a reason companies like this stay in business.....it's called demand.....and there aren't a lot of folks out there meeting it with a supply of good, quality stuff.....for the MC.

 

It's tough with the MC cuase it takes too much conversion to get it to a safe point. IE, the tranny. That's not cheap.