MINI Cooper non-S and MINI One dyno sheets
Hi..
Tested my new air intake (bmc cda) with the "der abt setup
" and i absolutely loved it.......
I have made a lot of mods in my car and excluding the ecu tuning this was the mod that i noticed a big improvement(and i already had the KN panel filter)...
Outstanding!
The car is faster it revs very very freely... and the noise.. oh my god!! and having the cooper S throttle body... the noise must be better compared to the stock one...
i pushed my car very hard yesterday and i had a top speed about 235kmh(with a slight inclination).
Maybe ill post the video later!!
Tested my new air intake (bmc cda) with the "der abt setup
" and i absolutely loved it.......I have made a lot of mods in my car and excluding the ecu tuning this was the mod that i noticed a big improvement(and i already had the KN panel filter)...
Outstanding!
The car is faster it revs very very freely... and the noise.. oh my god!! and having the cooper S throttle body... the noise must be better compared to the stock one...
i pushed my car very hard yesterday and i had a top speed about 235kmh(with a slight inclination).
Maybe ill post the video later!!
Hi..
Tested my new air intake (bmc cda) with the "der abt setup
" and i absolutely loved it.......
I have made a lot of mods in my car and excluding the ecu tuning this was the mod that i noticed a big improvement(and i already had the KN panel filter)...
Outstanding!
The car is faster it revs very very freely... and the noise.. oh my god!! and having the cooper S throttle body... the noise must be better compared to the stock one...
i pushed my car very hard yesterday and i had a top speed about 235kmh(with a slight inclination).
Maybe ill post the video later!!
Tested my new air intake (bmc cda) with the "der abt setup
" and i absolutely loved it.......I have made a lot of mods in my car and excluding the ecu tuning this was the mod that i noticed a big improvement(and i already had the KN panel filter)...
Outstanding!
The car is faster it revs very very freely... and the noise.. oh my god!! and having the cooper S throttle body... the noise must be better compared to the stock one...
i pushed my car very hard yesterday and i had a top speed about 235kmh(with a slight inclination).
Maybe ill post the video later!!
Just need the sticker saying.. "Tuned by Der ABT" 




Even so i am going to try to upgrade it even more...
I have a question for you der abt...
What have you done with the original air intake that goes to the filter housing?
I removed the front plastic so it can cool down the engine, especially the intake manifold... but has i was following the unused air intake tube i noticed that it goes somewhere near the left wheel of the car ... i 1st thought it was to cool down the brakes or something.. but no... i don't have any idea for what that pipe is used for... and i am tempted to take that off so i can have more space for the engine to cool down!!





Even so i am going to try to upgrade it even more...
I have a question for you der abt...
What have you done with the original air intake that goes to the filter housing?
I removed the front plastic so it can cool down the engine, especially the intake manifold... but has i was following the unused air intake tube i noticed that it goes somewhere near the left wheel of the car ... i 1st thought it was to cool down the brakes or something.. but no... i don't have any idea for what that pipe is used for... and i am tempted to take that off so i can have more space for the engine to cool down!!
Just need the sticker saying.. "Tuned by Der ABT" 




Even so i am going to try to upgrade it even more...
I have a question for you der abt...
What have you done with the original air intake that goes to the filter housing?
I removed the front plastic so it can cool down the engine, especially the intake manifold... but has i was following the unused air intake tube i noticed that it goes somewhere near the left wheel of the car ... i 1st thought it was to cool down the brakes or something.. but no... i don't have any idea for what that pipe is used for... and i am tempted to take that off so i can have more space for the engine to cool down!!





Even so i am going to try to upgrade it even more...
I have a question for you der abt...
What have you done with the original air intake that goes to the filter housing?
I removed the front plastic so it can cool down the engine, especially the intake manifold... but has i was following the unused air intake tube i noticed that it goes somewhere near the left wheel of the car ... i 1st thought it was to cool down the brakes or something.. but no... i don't have any idea for what that pipe is used for... and i am tempted to take that off so i can have more space for the engine to cool down!!
Don't worry about it.
Kind regards
Der Abt
I'm back =) and i need your help.. i will very very soon order my camshaft and headers and i am looking for power at high rpms(since i have the cooper S gearbox).... and also going to put cooper s valves for reliability.
What would you guys think is the best?
Just for you guys to know... i have dynoed the car with the mth tuner(98 octane fuel) software when i had kn panel air filter and almost dead spark plugs...
Realisticaly in the dyno its around 122\123(the dyno showed 130)
After that i installed
Cooper S fuel pump
Cooper S throttle body
Cat removal
BMC Cda(Der abt setup
)
Cooper S gearbox
Maybe in the 130\135 area now....
with the parts mentioned above and a fine tuning( with air\fuel mixture corrected) and also with combination of the cooper s fuel pump... i Think i will be very near 150bhp barrier....
Dont you think? or am i dreaming high?
What else can i make to my car to extract more power without putting ITB's or turbos?
I have a cooper S head ... how about port and polish it?
What would you guys think is the best?
Just for you guys to know... i have dynoed the car with the mth tuner(98 octane fuel) software when i had kn panel air filter and almost dead spark plugs...
Realisticaly in the dyno its around 122\123(the dyno showed 130)
After that i installed
Cooper S fuel pump
Cooper S throttle body
Cat removal
BMC Cda(Der abt setup
)Cooper S gearbox
Maybe in the 130\135 area now....
with the parts mentioned above and a fine tuning( with air\fuel mixture corrected) and also with combination of the cooper s fuel pump... i Think i will be very near 150bhp barrier....
Dont you think? or am i dreaming high?
What else can i make to my car to extract more power without putting ITB's or turbos?
I have a cooper S head ... how about port and polish it?
Give this guy a shout:
http://revolutionmini.com/
He could hook you up with a cam and a header that will be matched together and work great with your other mods.
http://revolutionmini.com/
He could hook you up with a cam and a header that will be matched together and work great with your other mods.
Make a regular thread in the forum. Not much attention gets around in here. Or send a PM to Jan and see what he has to say. Price compared to quality and performance, he's gonna be number 1.
I'm back =) and i need your help.. i will very very soon order my camshaft and headers and i am looking for power at high rpms(since i have the cooper S gearbox).... and also going to put cooper s valves for reliability.
What would you guys think is the best?
Just for you guys to know... i have dynoed the car with the mth tuner(98 octane fuel) software when i had kn panel air filter and almost dead spark plugs...
Realisticaly in the dyno its around 122\123(the dyno showed 130)
After that i installed
Cooper S fuel pump
Cooper S throttle body
Cat removal
BMC Cda(Der abt setup
)
Cooper S gearbox
Maybe in the 130\135 area now....
with the parts mentioned above and a fine tuning( with air\fuel mixture corrected) and also with combination of the cooper s fuel pump... i Think i will be very near 150bhp barrier....
Dont you think? or am i dreaming high?
What else can i make to my car to extract more power without putting ITB's or turbos?
I have a cooper S head ... how about port and polish it?
What would you guys think is the best?
Just for you guys to know... i have dynoed the car with the mth tuner(98 octane fuel) software when i had kn panel air filter and almost dead spark plugs...
Realisticaly in the dyno its around 122\123(the dyno showed 130)
After that i installed
Cooper S fuel pump
Cooper S throttle body
Cat removal
BMC Cda(Der abt setup
)Cooper S gearbox
Maybe in the 130\135 area now....
with the parts mentioned above and a fine tuning( with air\fuel mixture corrected) and also with combination of the cooper s fuel pump... i Think i will be very near 150bhp barrier....
Dont you think? or am i dreaming high?
What else can i make to my car to extract more power without putting ITB's or turbos?
I have a cooper S head ... how about port and polish it?
Very good setup you have there.
It's very difficult to speculate on the numbers, my advice would be the following, do a dyno run before and after the software tune.
To get to 150hp, I do think a cam and head are going to be a must.
If you are looking for cams that add power in the high rpm range, Schrick is the way to go.
But there are other brands out there that cost less, and provide power and torque throughout the entire rev range.
Make sure you also check out Catcams and Kent cams.
These two brands are also known for their quality and good price.
You could do some head work as well, but it really depends on the choice you make.
You could polish the stock head (and some parts inside the engine), but it's going to cost a lot of money and you won't gain a lot of hp (people who have done this saw gains from 3hp to 5hp).
If you really want more hp, I would suggest that you add one or a combination of the following mods :
-cam
-complete exhaust (header, sportcat., mid-pipe, cat-back)
-new head
-custom software (for all your parts)
Kind regards
Der Abt
Last edited by Der Abt; Jul 27, 2008 at 02:03 AM.
I was only thinking about reliability!
That's why i am putting the cooper S valves...
I've also heard about other cooper s components(Especialy regarding to lubrification)....
Any tips about reliability parts i can transfer from a cooper S ?
BTW.. i will soon make a rolling road session...
Lets se what i got!
That's why i am putting the cooper S valves...
I've also heard about other cooper s components(Especialy regarding to lubrification)....
Any tips about reliability parts i can transfer from a cooper S ?
BTW.. i will soon make a rolling road session...
Lets se what i got!
I honestly don't think making the swap would be worth it on pistons. For it to really work properly, you'd have to swap the oil squirters over, as well. It could probably be done but again, probably not worth it. If you're going ***** to the wall, go aftermarket and buy a set of JE's or call Jan about a set of CP pistons.
Actually using the Cooper S pistons, will hurt performance. First reason they are heavier, second reason, they will lower the compression to 8.5:1 or so.
The S oil squirters are a good idea, only with forged light weight pistons, and Cooper S rods.
Though, the Cooper S pistons are a nice addition if you plan to "spray it "
The S oil squirters are a good idea, only with forged light weight pistons, and Cooper S rods.
Though, the Cooper S pistons are a nice addition if you plan to "spray it "
Last edited by nickbmw; Jul 29, 2008 at 05:54 AM.
Had my Mini One at Minisport at the weekend. The exhaust was blowing badly at the pre-cat flange and there was no mechanic there to fix it.
Anyway it dyno'd at:
138.5 bhp @ 6510rpm
113 lb-ft @ 4910rpm
Mods (by me) are: Janspeed/GTT Manifold, Miltek catback, Pipercross Viper CAI, Pipercams road cam, Minipowerprog remap
Anyway it dyno'd at:
138.5 bhp @ 6510rpm
113 lb-ft @ 4910rpm
Mods (by me) are: Janspeed/GTT Manifold, Miltek catback, Pipercross Viper CAI, Pipercams road cam, Minipowerprog remap
Last edited by scraggles; Oct 14, 2008 at 02:14 AM. Reason: added scan of dyno plot
dear jan, I now love you. I'm curious is this also the car with the high compression pistons? what would we be looking at running stock compression? and do you have a relative price nailed? thanks :tu:
I'm sure we will be building a normal compression car at some point, I had orders to make some high compression stroker engines for some Race MINI's overseas. This was for a specific racing class. Like I said I believe there is more in the engine with the right tweaks. No pricing yet , I need to nail down some of the costs but it will be very similar to the regular stroker price.



Have never seen more than 220kmh (stock car)