So far, this is literally the only thing I don't like about my new car. I am really hoping we can eventually get this.

I'm worried we may not get Bimmercode, which would be the normal route to doing this. Maybe someone else can come up with a hack for the new OS if we don't get Bimmercode.

 

I'm with you there, though I normally go into Go-Kart mode as a first action after startup (which disables it). I think the only hope is a future update where the "personal" experience mode would allow you to change what the default auto start/stop is is. Or allowing Go-Kart mode to be the startup default.

 

I keep toying with Go-Kart mode, but I feel like it holds gears too long and people look at me like I'm trying to instigate racing them lol. I'm wondering how it also affects gas mileage.

 

Dont worry, the sound you hear is actually coming through your speakers.

 

Can this be disabled? I'll need to look into it.

 

i haven't seen a place where it can be disabled. I'll post if i do.

 

the pumped in exhaust audio can be disabled by going into the driving settings in your vehicle apps, then go into the chassis and drivetrain options. The toggle right at the top should be for "MINI sounds". Turning that off will disable the fake exhaust audio.

There won't be a way to disable the auto stop/start as it would be against current EPA rules for automakers to be able to permanently disable it. Until bimmercode offers support for it, you'll just have to hit the physical button for the drive settings and click on the auto stop/start button.

 

Thanks! I found that setting once a while back but couldn't find it again after many menu dives.

 

Interesting about the epa rules. Guess that explains why it's so hard to disable permanently.

 

Hi for all

 

That comment got me thinking and did some interwebs searching for some kind of answer. I came across a published article here:

https://www.torquenews.com/1083/disa...gal-or-illegal

My main takeaway from the article is the following statement that they got from their EPA communication:

On my 2017 F54, I have a dash switch to disable it and it remains off. Looks like on the 2025 it auto-resets each time, which is very annoying I can certainly understand. My wife's 2019 Wrangler has to be reset every time you drive the vehicle, but it is disabled via a dash button, so not horrible. I have a feeling that MINI/BMW my have now included the start-stop in their emissions compliance testing, which is why it auto resets, but it could also just be a way to have the system virtually always on and have nothing to do with EPA compliance. In any case, I am not sure we have a definitive answer about the start-stop being part of EPA compliance testing...you would need someone from inside MINI/BMW to answer that and also answer why it can't just remain 'off' when selected like it is in my F54. I have a feeling nobody internally will want to go on record with answers to those questions.

In any case, hopefully there is a way to create a home screen shortcut to that 'enable/disable' feature so all you have to do is tap a button when you start up the car. Just my $0.03...

 

There is a button on the shortcut screen.
The auto stop isn’t bad, one can really get used to it. The Volvo one sucked and not even a temp way to disable. You could also start in Go Kart mode.

 

That is your opinion. I consider a 1 second delay after pressing the accelerator to having any forward movement an incredible safety hazard. Also, Go Kart mode gets disabled every time the car turns off so that doesn't eliminate any required button pushes every time the car is started.

 

Yeah, sadly the only experience mode you can't default the car in is go-kart.

 

i think the problem is that the rules might disallow any potential key up starting default mode from having start stop disabled.

mini must have considered this but ideally, they would allow for another personal mode that cant be defaulted to, but has start stop off by default, but without the engine mapping of gokart mode!

 

I just took delivery of a 2025 Mini Cooper S in Melting Silver. Getting to know the car, and there's a lot to learn! Anyways, for the auto start/stop, seems like the easiest option is simply to drive it in "L" instead of "D", as auto start/stop is disabled in "L", which is apparently the equivalent of the Sport setting for cars equipped with paddles.

I actually much prefer the shift points in "L", and all it takes is a quick extra flick after putting it in "D".

I haven't put many miles on the car yet, so hard to say, but it feels like the "L" setting provides shifting logic that is more aggressive than in "D" when in all driving modes except for Go Kart mode, which seems to shift a bit more aggressively. Especially on the downshifts. But again, I have limited experience at this point.

 

"L" is just low gear mode. If you instead tap up twice on the "Experiences" **** you'll go straight into Go-Kart mode which does more than just hold a lower gear. It provides more aggressive up and down shifting and also tightens the steering profile. There's no need to use low gear mode if you just flip to Go-Kart, which has more benefits. Go-Kart mode also disables the auto-start-stop. Also note that I believe low gear mode permanently forces the lower gear, so I'm not sure it would be appropriate for highway driving. Go-Kart mode eventually shifts to the higher gear.

 

Yup, I realize "L" just holds a lower gear, but in practice it feels like it results in overall shifting behavior that falls somewhere between "D" in non-Go-Kart and "D" in Go-Kart. The manual states: "LOW mode: the engine braking effect is increased and acceleration is quicker."

When I drove on the highway in "L", I didn't notice it unnecessarily holding a lower gear. Basically it just seems like it's "almost" like Go-Kart mode. Go-Kart mode especially seems more aggressive on the downshifts. In my limited experience so far, it takes like a millisecond to simply click the transmission selector lever an additional time to get from D to L, whereas it's a bit more work and time to switch to the Go-Kart experience.

That said, I agree there are other benefits to Go-Kart. Still, if I am just running a quick errand, popping into L is crazy fast and disables the auto start/stop. I also simply prefer the way it drives compared to "D" in non-Go-Kart experiences, which are obviously tuned for super high efficiency.

 

FYI I have heard that this administration is rolling back the Start/Stop rules and requirements, so we may actually get a fix for this if the legislation goes through and we can voice our opinion of having it removed by MINI/BMW.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a6...nt-admin-says/

Secondary to this, we should try to get them to allow Go-Kart mode to stick past shutoffs since I assume the reason for this annoyance was because of its ties to Auto Start/Stop.