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Old May 19, 2006 | 07:37 AM
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I'll volunteer to run the weapons check booth at MOTD'07.
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 08:25 AM
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How about this, no more registration. If you want to have an event, talk to Mark (NAM) and talk to Fontana and charge for your event or not. That way DCMM's whom spent most of their time working this year can have fun @ MOTD next year.
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Greatbear
I'll volunteer to run the weapons check booth at MOTD'07.
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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A forum on NAM could be setup, so that evryone could see the discussions going on, but only people on the list could post.

Then if someone outside the planning committe wants to interject they could send a PM to a group address, that everyone on the committe would get.

Or there could be a public forum for commentsw, that the organizers could watch.

Just a thought.

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Old May 19, 2006 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mielnicki
A forum on NAM could be setup, so that evryone could see the discussions going on, but only people on the list could post.
I would have to disagree with that for the simple reason that the more opinions you get, the better the ideas will be. Limiting discussion to purely the "organizers" has ... at least from reading this thread ... not been a good idea.

I know for a fact that DCMM did its best to get other people to step up and volunteer. The more Ideas UP FRONT ... the less complaining in the end ....

Some people will complain there are TOO much discussion. You can't please everyone all the time

Just a thought since two heads are better than one ...
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JustJAY
How about this, no more registration. If you want to have an event, talk to Mark (NAM) and talk to Fontana and charge for your event or not. That way DCMM's whom spent most of their time working this year can have fun @ MOTD next year.
Well see that's part of the problem... This event isn't NAM's, and I know a LOT of people would be upset if it even remotely appeared that NAM was taking any sort of control over the event. While something could be done so that NAM can continue to be the bulletin board and potentially assist with some logistics, it should be done carefully.

As for Fontana, they have made it clear in the past that they want a central person or small group of persons to deal with as the event is put together.

Although honestly, with the amount of venom being spit in this thread, I'm not sure why anybody would want to put up with the aggravation that is sure to come with an event next year... Some of you have been down right viscious. Are you guys actually reading what you're posting before you submit it?

The ONLY people who were paid to put on this event were the ones who worked at Fontana, Tapoco, Crossroads of Time, and the other hotels, gas stations etc in the area. Every body else who was involved was a volunteer. They gave up A LOT of their own time, money, and effort to put on this year's event.... They didn't have to do it... Did the event go perfectly? No... Are there places to improve... Absolutely.

This thread was started to solicit useful, constructive feedback. It looks like it's finally getting back on track... Let's keep it that way please...
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Greatbear
I'll volunteer to run the weapons check booth at MOTD'07.
Hey Greatbear! Empty your Private Message In/Out boxes! LOL! I tried to PM you, but got this message:

"Greatbear has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space."

 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 08:57 AM
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I have a quick question for the previous dinner planners...

Does Fontana require that all food come from them? Can food be brought in from an outside source...i.e. BBQ??? My husband is a chef and is a partner in a catering business that does large parties. I am just curious if anyone knows what Fontana will allow (room rentals, etc.).
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mielnicki
A forum on NAM could be setup, so that evryone could see the discussions going on, but only people on the list could post.

Then if someone outside the planning committe wants to interject they could send a PM to a group address, that everyone on the committe would get.

Or there could be a public forum for commentsw, that the organizers could watch.

Just a thought.

Steve
This has been mentioned a number of times, Steve. See https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...&postcount=290

Originally Posted by chows4us
I would have to disagree with that for the simple reason that the more opinions you get, the better the ideas will be. Limiting discussion to purely the "organizers" has ... at least from reading this thread ... not been a good idea.

I know for a fact that DCMM did its best to get other people to step up and volunteer. The more Ideas UP FRONT ... the less complaining in the end ....

Some people will complain there are TOO much discussion. You can't please everyone all the time

Just a thought since two heads are better than one ...
Actually, open threads discussing things are a great idea, but the Coordinators could have a forum where the actual plans are made, so they don't have to wade through all the inevitable banter and tangents. See the link above.
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by vargasgal
I have a quick question for the previous dinner planners...

Does Fontana require that all food come from them? Can food be brought in from an outside source...i.e. BBQ??? My husband is a chef and is a partner in a catering business that does large parties. I am just curious if anyone knows what Fontana will allow (room rentals, etc.).
I tried...

PM me and will give details

MD STREGA2
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by vargasgal
I have a quick question for the previous dinner planners...

Does Fontana require that all food come from them? Can food be brought in from an outside source...i.e. BBQ??? My husband is a chef and is a partner in a catering business that does large parties. I am just curious if anyone knows what Fontana will allow (room rentals, etc.).
vargasgal, when MKO organized the Welcome Dinner in 2005, we didn't have to pay any fees for the Dam Room. Now that Fontana has new owners, I do not know what their policy is, but they have always been incredibly generous in offering venues for our various MOTD events at no charge.

BBQ! Mmmmmmmm.....
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MINIclo
This has been mentioned a number of times, Steve. See https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...&postcount=290

Actually, open threads discussing things are a great idea, but the Coordinators could have a forum where the actual plans are made, so they don't have to wade through all the inevitable banter and tangents. See the link above.
Yes, I know it was, I was giving suggestions for how it could be setup.

Forum where all can see but only organizers can post and...

another where people can post ideas and comments based on whats in Forum #1

Steve
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by chows4us
I would have to disagree with that for the simple reason that the more opinions you get, the better the ideas will be. Limiting discussion to purely the "organizers" has ... at least from reading this thread ... not been a good idea.
I agree, but there should be a place where only official organizers can talk and share.

Read my last post before this one.

Steve
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mielnicki
Yes, I know it was, I was giving suggestions for how it could be setup.

Forum where all can see but only organizers can post and...

another where people can post ideas and comments based on whats in Forum #1

Steve
That's a good idea, Steve, to have an Organizing forum where all can see, but only Coordinators can post. People can have open threads of discussion in the MOTD area, and PM folks with ideas, too.
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by MINIclo
That's a good idea, Steve, to have an Organizing forum where all can see, but only Coordinators can post. People can have open threads of discussion in the MOTD area, and PM folks with ideas, too.
I try.
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MINIclo
Hey Greatbear! Empty your Private Message In/Out boxes! LOL! I tried to PM you, but got this message:

"Greatbear has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space."

I just did. I cold not even reply to you. I hope this does not result in me getting another 'advice thread'. :impatient

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It makes sense that Fontana expects some sort of coordination during an organized event, especially one that takes over their entire facilities like we do. It is necessary for them to be able to allocate their facilities properly as far as events go (taking over the restaurant or adventure center, providing a car wash area, allowing unusual use of the facilities like a drive-in on the ball field or taking over an entire parking lot for vendors). If there is no coordination both ahead of time and during the event itself, it's doubtful that they would allow anyone to suddenly want to 'repurpose' a major area for some other use. So if anyone thinks they can just all show up on the first weekend in May and expect Fontana, Tapoco and what have you allow what we want to do, you'll probably be disappointed.
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Greatbear
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It makes sense that Fontana expects some sort of coordination during an organized event, especially one that takes over their entire facilities like we do. It is necessary for them to be able to allocate their facilities properly as far as events go (taking over the restaurant or adventure center, providing a car wash area, allowing unusual use of the facilities like a drive-in on the ball field or taking over an entire parking lot for vendors). If there is no coordination both ahead of time and during the event itself, it's doubtful that they would allow anyone to suddenly want to 'repurpose' a major area for some other use. So if anyone thinks they can just all show up on the first weekend in May and expect Fontana, Tapoco and what have you allow what we want to do, you'll probably be disappointed.
I don't think anybody has seriously suggested anarchy, Phil.....yet!

Many of us who have organized events the past 3 years have built relationships with the folks at Fontana and Tapoco, and they already know we'll be contacting them to plan things. I think a planning committee of organizers from various clubs could select a few folks to be the MOTD reps to Fontana/Tapoco, to keep communications and arrangements flowing.
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by lastrega
DCMM worked really hard to make MOTD a pleasant experience for everyone and if for doing so we can make $50.00 for our club is not lame, to me it's called survival and we want to keep DCMM alive for a long time. If the money were to be pocketed by individuals I will agree with you, but if DCMM can afford another recruting breakfast next month, then the money is still spent within the MINI community and I don't feel bad about it.

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PS: if you come to one of our breakfasts I will save you a croissant
DCMM is still working out whether we have any left over money after the Dragon this year.

We did not announce that any of our events would have proceeds donated to charity because we really were not sure we would make any proceeds. We decided quite a while back that the vasty majority of proceeds would go to charity. And then we got bogged down and never picked one!

So, we plan to make a contribution to charity (most likely the Make a Wish Foundation, but we are still getting suggestions and have not decided) with the vast majority of any proceeds. We had hoped to annouce this at the farewell dinner, but as been said, the event was just taking way too long and I could not stomach holding people any longer. Once we know what we are doing we will post about it. Proceeds remaining go to pay our insurance policy and misc. club stuff and a thank you event to keep us going until the next Dragon. No one takes home money. We are not in this to make money -- we are in this to help put on a fun event for the MINI community nationally.

The tone of the thread has really changed in the last 48 hours. I am leaning toward asking that it be locked too. Many many fine folks have stepped up wanting to help next year. As the event grows, we will need as many people as possible to help out. Several suggestions have been made about how those folks could keep in contact. Perhaps we have gathered enough feedback.
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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geezzz..as Maurice Sendak said, "no fighting, no biting".
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kgdblu
geezzz..as Maurice Sendak said, "no fighting, no biting".
Is that like "a barking dog doesn't bite?"
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by chows4us
Is that like "a barking dog doesn't bite?"
no, it's like "stop fighting!"
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by kgdblu
no, it's like "stop fighting!"
Ahh, then thats like the opposite of:

"The dogs stopped barking .... RUN!!!!"
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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Moderators,
How about anything in this thread that has nothing to do with suggestions for MOTD 2007 gets deleted?
I am indeed for great discussions in public forums, but my pet peeve is when folks do not stick to the thread title. IE in this case here, let's stick to suggestions.




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Old May 19, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Moskito
Moderators,
How about anything in this thread that has nothing to do with suggestions for MOTD 2007 gets deleted?
While I agree the thread should remain on topic, I am never a fan of deleting posts, unless they are in flagrant violation of forum rules (e.g. talk of illegal activity, unchecked rogue advertising, etc.). Censorship can be a really bad thing. Ideally, in my opinion all "off-topic" posts (mine included, of course) should simply be moved elsewhere - not deleted... but I appreciate that may be easier said than done. But what's said is said, and deleting them doesn't take them back, nor does it help anyone else who really does want to know what happened.

Of course, it's all just my opinion... I am not a content moderator here.
 
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Old May 19, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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We did not announce that any of our events would have proceeds donated to charity because we really were not sure we would make any proceeds. We decided quite a while back that the vasty majority of proceeds would go to charity. And then we got bogged down and never picked one!

So, we plan to make a contribution to charity (most likely the Make a Wish Foundation, but we are still getting suggestions and have not decided) with the vast majority of any proceeds.
I am sure the MakeAWish Foundation is very nice, but have you considered donating to the Counterfeit Mini Victims Foundation? I keep thinking of poor Octane Guy, showng up year after year in what he thinks is a MINI... and it just breaks my heart!
 
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