You bet...I'm here to play

 

Oh yeah, me too......best time is 12minutes and 32seconds to get my front end off.

Bring it on Peter!!!!!!!

 

Im ready too Ive already taken the Alta off and have a HAI setup in the meantime... I must say, I like the HAI much more than the Alta... especially at $200 cheaper. Doesnt look as good, but it sounds better and seems like there is a bit more power.

Ive got the $$$ ready whenever you get that thing into production TB + AGS.... Im sure my butt dyno will be able to tell the different... my Miltek header is on the way too

 

what kind of alternative will M7 offer to those of us who like the location of the other CAI filters, but want the advantage of the AGS' larger intake runner? how about a kit with a silicone hose that connects to another filter in the stock location to continue to take advantage of my Orciari scoops and my modified cowling.

 

Good thinking I'm sure alot of people like the stock location and overall look with silicone hoses...

 

So, to summarize, you are thanking people for not buying competitors' products because they are holding off for your intake ... which outperforms all other intakes on the market ... but you don't have any data to back that up ... and your intake doesn't exist yet.

 

That is pretty much it in a nutshell andy We have not asked anyone to hold off on buying anything and one can only assume that they are making there own decisions based on the few pictures and what little detail we have been able to supply to date. Judging from the inquires we already have had and all of the support on here we think that once the facts are out the opening run of 100 units will not last as long as we expected so we are going to be following that up with a quick reorder so there will be no delay in delivery. Thanks for the post andy we appreciate your interest

Randy
Team M7
www.M7tuning.com

 

... is different from the first post in this thread:

 

...We have not asked anyone...

...I have been told to wait on my intake purchase...

Doesn't that depend on who advised zionistmovement to wait?

If it was someone from M7, then you've got a point. But I've seen numerous folks on these forums expressing the view that those considering intake purchases ought to hold off until M7 releases their product. So it's far from certain that the recommendation in question came from M7.

 

You make a good point, but who outside of M7 would have made such a recommendation prior to October 5, 2004 (TWENTY weeks ago) when this thread started?

 

 

Probably from someone like those who said to wait for GIAC, a couple of years ago . These forums are definitely not a fountain of accurate info... When I want the scoop, I contact the vendor directly...

 

Dittos Really...this all very childish. If people don't want to wait, they can tune off. There's nothing stopping them from buying something else I have a bigger problem with Federal Extra slow delivery It's nearly 6PM and I'm still waiting....ARRRRRGGGGG

 

You are making a huge ASSumption saying that we told someone to wait.

The thread was started over 20 weeks ago by whom ?

Again thanks for the interest
Randy
M7 Tuning

 

My bet is something ram air oriented with proper heat shielding. I had also read something about the AGS providing precise air pressure, but I don't really know what that will do or how that will be acheived.

In looking at the MCS, I have always thought a great deal could be gained by drawing outside air direct (and unobsructed/mixed) through the cowl vent. Due to space restrictions and the fact that the bonnet has to be able to open and close I don't necessarily know how that would be possible without the air from the engine bay mixing to a degree. However, engineering solutions are certainly possible if you have the ability and platform to turn something like that into a salable production piece. I develop product for several rollerblading companies and we have come up with some solutions to "impossible" problems on many occasions. It just takes someone with knowledge, passion, and distribution to bring a product of that kind to life. It looks like that's what M7 aims to do.

 

You can see who started a thread on any forum by clicking on the thread title. For example:

M7 Intake????

Hope this helps.

 

http://www.teammightyminiz.com/forum...pic.php?t=1153

My apologies. I have no idea who I ASSumed that M7 was telling people to hold off on buying other products so they could wait for the AGS.

 

(fatguyinalittlecar) ROFLMAO...That's too funny

 

Telling someone that it's going to be good, or that it will be the best is not the same as saying don't buy another unit. And even if a vendor did tell folks that ('wait for mine, don't buy theirs'), many people would not appreciate being told what to do. Peter has personally told me that if others want to buy another intake while his gets done, that's perfectly fine, and their choice...

FWIW, I've had other vendors tell me that their new products (soon to be released) will be better that the rest, and then provide reasons why... Many of us love to know what's in the pipeline, so we can not only compare against what's out there now, but will be...

And if one is not in the mkt for that item, or doesn't like this approach, click on a more appropriate thread. Others have decided that this holds much promise, and they value knowing that it's coming to market...

At this point, I hope that M7 will not release the flow numbers of the various intakes. Releasing one's own numbers opens a can of worms around here; and sharing those of the competition is just a locked thread waiting to happen .

Numbers, charts, graphs - I love 'em. But, as we've seen, and quite often, each depiction cannot be taken as the Gospel. Even if the quality control is exceptional, motives will then be questioned, as the numbers can be fudged to one's benefit. I think someone said it earlier, in a different thread... build a foundational relationship and trust in the vendor/tuner. I've had the opportunity to do so with Peter, and with Randy Webb. I still ask the hard questions of them, and they've earned my trust...

The AGS comes-out when it comes-out. Life goes on, people are born, and people die. And some just choose to ***** a little too much along the way .

 

Since I paid for mine on aug 30th of 2004..... does that mean I get mine first?????

 

I guess now you'll need the twincharged AGS .

 

here's a way to chill out for a lap:

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Innovative for the mini, maybe, but "amazing and ground breaking"? I'll grant that you MAY (numbers yet to be posted to back the statements) have done a well exicuted intake design coupled with an enlarged throttle body, but this is far from amazing and ground breaking.

I was reading through the latest round of posts, and we all have to keep in mind that no matter what is made here, it is a PASSIVE SYSTEM, gain in the name not withstanding. While this is the first intake to go past the throttle body, it's still just a smooth pipe with a butterfly valve in it. And a hat! I can't forget the filter. So yes, maybe this is better than others out there, but for those of you that are looking for 20 hp, maybe if it comes with a nitrous bottle!

I'm not dissing the product. It looks like it's a well thought out approach to getting a more efficient intake for our cars. But so far there's only talk, no information if the device is resonance tuned or designed by the "space available" method. But there are real questions as to what the relative benefit of this is to stock, a CAI, a TB, doing the trimming of the piece past the TB and combinations thereof. Also, will guys like El Diablo benefit more, as cars like his are breathing a LOT more air than guys like me with a pully and MTH or even a base Mini.

The pricing for the package looks to be good, especially when you consider the cost delta over throttle body upgrades. So all we need now are performance numbers, and available product!

Matt

 

Thank you Dr.



I understand how it looks like it's taking a long time to get the product to market. But consider this....

We had to:

1. make a very expensive mold for the AGS pipe, that of course
meant that we had to build a tool set, to ultimately make the
aluminum mold from. This mold had to be re done twice as the
shrinkage factor of the plastic changed the alignment of the
bypass valve tube.

2. Custom design a filter module that would incorporate
CARB systems (crank case ventilation). Small changes to this design
led to a new filter mold (read more cash).

3. New wire harness extension with one custom made plug
and very hard to source pins and receptacles.We finally sourced them
in a land far far away.

4. New vaccum nipple on the throttle body to clear radiator hoses.
This non assuming part is CNC machined which leads to more R$D time
(I assume you noticed the Dollar sign).

5. Our up on hours on the airflow rig, to make sure that the design works
as promised.

6. Tons of time designing the heat shield, which included a foam board
mockup, detailed shop drawings and spech's.

7. More time designing an optional lid/cover for the bottom OE airbox.
With the heat shield and cover comes many hours of meetings with the
metal shop. Then meetings with the powder coating company....

8. To get our name on the product, a cool looking aluminum label was
chosen, but again I had to design the label in photoshop, email it
to my label house, and after some small revisions it was a product.


9. Now we need boxes, bags, inserts, and some other goodies which means
testing, measuring etc.

So there we go, that is why it takes longer then a fortnight. And yes we
where to optimistic in the scheduling of the product release, but nothing
but great products will leave the luxurious headquarters of M7....

PS. M7 = No Beta to customers.

Sincerely.

peter
Team M7
562-608-8123

www.m7tuning.com

 

Well we should see the AGS in action this Sunday on the dyno. It’s too bad that they are teaming it up with all their other stuff so we can’t see what it will do by it self.


Dave