What are our big brake options????
All the sites like mini mania, way out motoring, ecs, etc seem to have kits for other models but not ours.
Honestly, I'm not all that worried about gaining a huge performance increase, but would like something that is a step up visually from just painting stock calipers.

 

I asked ECS about using the F54 JCW brake kit but they said an F60 version should be on the way. Still no word on it though.

 

You could buy the jcw brake kit. Not cheap but massive compared to standard and are a huge difference in stopping.
The main issue is the new front caliper is so big only certain wheels fit without hitting.

 

Just the kit we made right here: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...34116868399kt/

The F54 Kit came out but MINI has no F60 kit i have seen.

 

Is there anyway you could just sell the F54 kit with just the extra parts needed to adapt it to the F60 rather than all of the parts individually for the F60? It's a little cost prohibitive to buy them that way compared to the pricing on the JCW kits.

 

I can do that, It will take me a day or 2. Let me double check the parts.

 

http://minionecooper.com/en/mini_bra...hilli_red.html

 

Ya, unfortunately, that is like 3x what I'd be looking to spend, especially on and otherwise stock F60.

 

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...t/34112360181/

Parts that come with it : https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=03_0047

So everything matches up the same, the change is you have a brake booster and upgraded larger master cylinder for the stock F54 to the F54 JCW kit. Much like we found in our ECS Genuine MINI Gp2 kit we made. The part number on the master on the JCW retrofit kit for the F54 is the same in the stock F60 JCW. So you will not need that part.

The brake booster is a different part number in that kit then in the F60. So that may not be needed. My theory based off of the brake booster is the F60 since it already has the larger master must have a larger brake booster. So those kit should swap. If you do get it and install let us know.
Does not look like its will need flashed based off what i can see afterwards for the DSC like the old gen 2 kit.

 

Ok, now that's not bad, especially for all 4 corners. Yesterday's link i clicked was over $5k.

 

Yep, thats what happen when its a la carte. MINI discounts kits they make in house. We make kits all the time they never make.

Glade to help.

 

Do you know if this kit will work with the OEM wheels on our 2018 S All4? Size: 18x7.5. Lugs: 5. Bolt Pattern: 112mm. Offset: 51mm. Option Code: Type 532. OE Part Number: 36116856032. Thanks.

 

You will need spacers, but i would just new wheels that fit. https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...t/34112360181/

Wheels fitment : 36116856049, 36116856056 and 36116856066 part # wheels

Those 17" might rub even if you have wheel spacers, i have not seen a bunch of people fit these and swap wheels yet.

 

I ordered the kit from ECS last fall (it was a long wait for the BMW warehouse to ship, but I think it was worth it). I am now in a position to install it and realized there are A LOT of small parts. Hoping to find an online source with step by step instructions.

I am sure I can get it all bolted up on my own, but I would be more comfortable with a set of instructions.

Any Ideas?

Jeff

 

Hello,

Hold on i will try to get those for you.

Mike

 

So, I test fitted the disks and rotors today. No issues on bolt up of the disk or caliper seems straight forward enough. As expected, the stock 18 inch wheels did not fit.
I jumped on the interwebs and ordered the 18" JCW RSe12 Wheels from ECS. Now, as I sit here pondering if I acted too quickly, I got to thinking about how it will handle. If it changes too much my wife may not like it.
So I have a few questions. First the current wheel specs are 7.5JX18 ET 51. The new NM wheels are 7.5 X 18 ET 40. I understand that this will push the wheels out 11mm, but do not know the affect it will have on the scrub radius. Most FWD cars like negative scrub radius number and 11 mm does not seem like much, but knowing where the original point was I may be getting to close to the dreaded zero point, and I am not sure how much that may change the steering dynamic.

I put down some chalk rolled ever it and turned the wheel, but my tape measure method showed a negative scrub radius, but is not detailed enough to make a worthwhile reading.
Does anyone know the stock scrub radius and if so, how much an 11mm push out toward the fenders will affect the handling of the F60?
Thanks
Jeff

 

I have the 8 x 18 with 45 offset RSe11R from the same manufacturer. If I'm recalling correctly, mine also have an 11 mm scrub radius...which has had ZERO noticeable effects on ride quality. It corners great at the limits, too. I'd be willing to bet you'll be very happy with the result. A bit of buyers remorse will be relieved as soon as you drive around a few minutes!

I looked it up, my new setup has an estimated 6 mm scrub, not 11...

 

The NM Engineering wheel were not going to ship until June 30, so I needed a new plan. The JCW 18" wheel shipped in about 10 days after they were ordered. These wheel have same off set as the ones I took off, so my wife should not notice any changes in the handling. So my decision about which wheel was made for me.

The new MINI dealer is having an open house on the 26th. I will see if I can get a software update while I am there


UPDATE: The brakes are on. The JCW wheel clear the calipers. All seems well. But bleeding seems to be a problem. Soft pedal on first push. I may try my diagnostic tool to turn on the ABS pumps tomorrow and see if I can get some results that way. may even pull a vacuum at the test bib when I do. Also, when I bled the fronts, I bled the out first, then the inside. The small pamphlet they call instructions does not seem to indicate which should be done first. I will update tomorrow .

 

Yep, those are the wheels I took off of my JCW (now 3 are in the garage, with one in the boot as a spare) to put the NM Engineering wheels on. Definitely clear the calipers even with the 7.5 width and 51 mm offset...just don't let a knucklehead use balancing weights that are too tall!

 

Jefferson, post up more pics please!

 

So, I got it all on. Had some trouble bleeding it, but in the end the pedal is firm............ That is until I start the car, then the pedal is soft and goes to the floor on first push. I am able to pump it up, but still soft if I wait a few seconds and press it again.
I did not install the booster servo that came with the kit. I now suspect that it will need changing. After some parts number chasing, my question is this:

Should I install the one that came in the F54 kit #34336869016, or the one that came on the F60 JCW all4 #34336883134 (same brake calipers).
The current booster is #34336873440
The F54 booster is 3433688313 so they are close number wise to the F60 JCW.

ECS, you and Realoem.com have gotten me this far, any chance you can help refine which booster to use?

Jeff

 

Left front

Right rear

 

The JCW big brakes sure look great!

If your pedal pressure goes soft when you start the car, then there is still some air in the system somewhere.

 

Thanks Jefferson, another fellow QJ user!

 

YES......I have the 7,000 lb version so I can work on my Land Rovers brakes/suspension . They are the heavy ones and are harder to move around, but once in place, it is much easier than a floor jack and jack stands. I think that anybody who spends much time in the garage with their car needs a way to get all four wheel off the ground at the same time.

I use 4 ramps to change to oil in the Land Rovers and these for the Minis.

The pedal feels better today, so made an appointment to at the dealer to get the software update. I will report back when it is all sorted out.

Jeff