1st Gen Countryman (R60) Talk (2010-2015) R60 Countryman Discussions

R60 Why ALL4?

Old Aug 28, 2012 | 09:59 AM
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My reason is simple. I like AWD/4WD. Over the years I've had all types of vehicles (FWD,AWD,RWD,4WD) and overall with all the weather up here and crappy roads I've always preferred the way AWD or 4WD handle. True that FWD with a good set of snow tires and driver experience can handle just as well but personally I've always felt that AWD/4WD take a little less driver effort. Again probably just a placebo and the fact I like em more.

Plus my ideal auto was small, compact, awd and good MPG and the ALL4 was the closest thing to that. Though I really wanted 2 door but there was nothing even remotely close to that (praying for that 2 door ALL4!!!)
 
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 10:55 AM
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I look at it this way...if you've ever been stranded or unable get up a road while 4wd or awd vehicles were able to do so with little trouble, how much would you have paid to have 4wd or awd at that moment? Given our past experience without 4wd/awd and the likelyhood of facing that every year, especially when we ski in northern New England, the extra $ for AWD was a "no brainer" for us.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by shark715
I look at it this way...if you've ever been stranded or unable get up a road while 4wd or awd vehicles were able to do so with little trouble, how much would you have paid to have 4wd or awd at that moment? Given our past experience without 4wd/awd and the likelyhood of facing that every year, especially when we ski in northern New England, the extra $ for AWD was a "no brainer" for us.
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This!
 
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 07:05 PM
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And with the same logic we will be going to winter tires rather than all season ones. No doubt that's overkill for many, but if you've faced being stuck in a snowstorm and experienced how much more traction ability awd/4wd and winter tires can provide on ice and/or moderate to deep snow, it should not be difficult to understand our decisions.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Sealy
Don't have All4. From what MINI says another good reason is that it eliminates torque steer. When the light turns green and I mash Zaftig's go pedal - he goes fast in any direction - except straight.

Sealy - Who had to clean his lounge leather the first time he did it.
My '07 MCS JCW has generous torque steer on hearty takeoffs, but after a while the old neural network takes over and muscle memory takes care it. Don't even notice it anymore, so that's good. I did not like it when I first experienced it, but she's my first FWD car.

She eats front tires for breakfast though (Dunlop Direzza Sport Specs - they're like fat erasers).
 
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FredoinSF
Ahhhh, That's because you live in a sensible state my friend.

I lived in MI for years and drove 36k miles a year through MI, OH, PA, and IN in all sorts of weather with RWD BMW's and snow tires for my job. Never had a problem, never been stranded, never had a wreck. Then I move to CA and the state blocks the road and checks for chains the second they smell two flakes of snow. 4WD gets you through without installing chains. After several years of dealing with the develish things and getting slushed by passing semis then getting dirt on the fine BMW napa or pearl leather, I gave in and bought the Jeep for the weekly drives through the Sierras.
Nice! I can relate.

Grew up in MI, 21 years, I loved driving in the snow!

People in the mid-west know how to drive in the snow...and how to get out of a snow bank.

California is frustrating because it's a nanny state, they know better than us...especially on how to keep us safe.
 
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