Work completed on mine in an hour or so - plus got a nice wash.

 

Congrats. What does your wo list and do you notice any difference in your AC?

 

No difference at all in my AC performance, it's pretty darn hot out and during the drive from Mini back to my office my car didn't cool at all. Maybe it will get better...I doubt it.

Here's what they did and parts:

Recall work Package
Adapter Lead
Spacer Holder
Coolant hose
Cable Strap

Retrofit of the Engine Coolant Temperature sensor, removed and replaced upper coolant hose and attached adapter cable. Filled and bled cooling system. Defect code: 00 17 51 01 00

 

Scheduled for a Friday morning temp senor recall. The SA said that they have done a few. Right know, if MINI Service reads your key, it should do a automatic lookup for recall applicability. The recalls they have done were flagged by a key-read when the CMs were in for other service.

Good to know I won't be the first recall service they have done...

 

No real change in my a/c. My work order says:

adapter lead
spacer holder
coolant hose
cable strap
_____________________

reset state and emissions lights
reset

 

scheduled my temp sensor recall appointment for next week. the service advisor told me it would be done in under 2 hours. i haven't had an issue with the fan...only heard it 2-3 times running for about 15 seconds after i shut off the engine...my work commute is short and have taken it for long rides (1 hr 40 mins) a bunch of times, but i'm not waiting for a problem to happen.

 

Is there a place where we can see if we are affected, or are you contacting service center?

 

Contact a Mini Dealership and they will be able to tell you based off of your VIN.

 

My check engine light came on 3 weeks ago and it was the sensor. 2012 CM

 

I called Vista service department today.Both my daughter's automatic justa and my manual S have been recalled.
Made an appointment for this coming Monday.
They will also try to exorcise the "poltergeist" that has taken over my Connected.Every couple of days it restarts on it's own,in german!!!!
Anybody else with this problem?

 

Keep your hands off the glass.

 

Thanks -- Though, I shouldn't have to be notified about a recall mixed in pages talking about cup holders and plasti-dip by fellow users. I'm grateful for that but about to give my dealership manager a piece of my mind, seeing how it has been 4 months since I've purchased and no contact from them or Mini, not even a survey or thanks.

 

Sounds like perhaps this was just announced and letters have not made their way to the owners yet? I emailed Mini customer service a few minutes ago with our VIN number to see if ours is included. I thought someone had mentioned early on that the issue was only for units with automatic transmissions, so I was not paying attention. But now it appears from some posts here that at least some cars with manual transmissions are included too?

 

That's correct. My 12 manual transmission is affected as well. Have an appointment for Tuesday to bring it in.

 

Just returned from having the recall work performed by my MINI Service Department. Same list of parts that has previously been posted.

Based on my (terrifically informative and knowledgeable!) SA (MINI Concierge), here is my summary of the problem that the recall addresses:

MINIs have a coolant temperature sensor that monitors the coolant "in stream" and reports back the temperature to the control module(s). The software in the control module(s) then reacts to the temperature reading and modifies the engine management (cooling fan, etc.). However, in order for the engine to operate at all, the temperature sensor MUST be working, for obvious reasons.

There are two possible designs for the location of the temperature sensor: apparently, non-R60s have the sensor located in one location, but the R60 has it in a different location. Problem is, the R60 location is too near a heat source (coolant? exhaust? not sure...) and, under certain high-temperature conditions, the solder that is used to connect the wire leads to the sensor actually melts. This, of course, results in the absence of ANY reading from the temperature sensor and the motor cannot be started (see last sentence in the above paragraph).

The recall moves the R60 temperature sensor to a new location that is not subject to heat high enough to melt the solder. They probably put it in the location used by the rest of the MINI models.

Considering the specifics of the problem and its correction, I see absolutely no reason to infer that this recall will, in any way, affect the performance of the AirCon system.

P.S. Hats-off to my MINI dealer and my outstanding SA, Brandon!

HTH,

 

Called the local dealer to verify if my April 12 build CMS was affected by this recall and it wasn't as previously reported in NAM.

 

Thanks for the great info. It's interesting and worth noting that I have driven mine before the recall repairs with 3500 miles on it, daily in temperatures of 112 to 116 in Las Vegas and had no problems. Therefore might it be the case that the potential solder failure at the original location might be more about lifespan before failure, rather than temperature itself? That is, maybe over time temperature or the stability of the solder joint might be the cause of failure? If it were temperature alone I would have thought I passed that threshold.

 

I think that's an excellent observation! Surely, the heating/cooling of the solder over time may make it more brittle and susceptible to failure during heat-cycles...and stop calling me Shirley!

 

Will check for ancient burial site under my garage!

 

Just got off the phone with the dealer where we bought the car, and they claim ours in NOT part of the recall. Isn't that odd? Our MCSA4 (manual transmission) was produced the last week of April. Maybe they are recalling them in batches to avoid overwhelming the dealers, and ours has not made the list yet because it's relatively new?

If our car is never recalled, that seems to be an indication that they changed the part being installed at the factory sometime during April, and are just now getting around to bringing in older cars for a retrofit. Wow, if I were one of the people that got stuck when theirs failed in the meantime, I would be more than a little upset.

Then again, it may have nothing to do with the vehicle production date. Perhaps it's the date the engine was assembled (which perhaps only roughly correlates to the vehicle production date). I thought I read somewhere that BMW sources these engines from Renault or Peugeot, and they are made in France?

Dave (DR61), do you find it surprising as I do that any OBDII car would not be able to be started at all just because the computer can't detect a coolant temperature signal? In most cars wouldn't the "check engine soon" light be turned on and the engine go into "limp home" mode? (rather than a "no start" that leaves the customer stranded?) Or perhaps the reason is that the computer has no other means to detect an overheating situation that could cause major engine damage?

 

Yes, I would think if no temperature signal is detected that they would program the system to run in 'reduced power mode' with the radiator cooling fan ON and thermostat fully open . However if it is cold outside this may make a cold start problematical. Perhaps the SA didn't say it quite right.

I believe that all MINI engines are _assembled_ at the Hamms Hall plant in England. The blocks are cast in France at the PSA plant, which supplies the same block design to Peugeot. Heads and many other parts are unique to MINI. Once built, our CM engines are then shipped to Austria, so there could be quite a lag time from engine assembly to vehicle assembly.

I haven't received any recall notices for my January 2012 build manual yet. I keep an eye on my temp display to see if anything changes (still usually reads 220-225F when warm). Not exactly worrying about cold starts right now; high air temperatures are running about 103F here every day!!

 

I was told they are only recalling through March 2012 production.

 

Dave, I think you are correct on the engine parts sourcing and assembly. I recalled there was something to do with France, and could not recall the details, but what you said sounds very familiar.

 

Koopah, I misread eenunez1's post.

I thought he said his April 12th car was included in the recall...but he said it WAS NOT.

 

Shark, you are correct my CMS is fee and clear from this recall...