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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 04:57 AM
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Can you change somthing as simple as tire choice once car has entered production? I really do not want runflats. Had NO idea did not come with a spare if you chose them, or that they seem to be such a crap tire.


EDIT: Nevermind, already spoke with my MA. The Justa comes with a spare! SO will just eat the runflats up and move on. And no changes once in production!
 

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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 07:09 AM
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yep, youll probably want to ditch them anyway lol
 
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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I've had absolutely zero problems with my runflats. Frankly, I'm a little saddened by the herd mentality here that the RFs are now basically seen as the tires of the Antichrist. "Why do you hate runflats?" "Because everyone else does!"
 
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 01:47 PM
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I just really wanted to be sure to have a spare. That spooked me, but learned the "no spare" with runflats does not apply to a Justa. Phew! That was the icing on the bad review. Other than that I don't mind til they need replacing.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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I'm not on the "i hate runflats" bandwagon but when I bought my R53 two needed to be replaced (they had bubbles in the sidewall) and when I saw the price of new ones compared to a more high-performance non-runflat I'd rather have a cheaper, better performing tire. But I drive my car hard daily and my car is modded so a stickier tire was more appealing to me also. Just my two cents..
 
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by b13mini
I just really wanted to be sure to have a spare. That spooked me, but learned the "no spare" with runflats does not apply to a Justa. Phew! That was the icing on the bad review. Other than that I don't mind til they need replacing.
With runflats and roadside assistance, why so insistent on a spare?
 
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by minicooperwill
I've had absolutely zero problems with my runflats. Frankly, I'm a little saddened by the herd mentality here that the RFs are now basically seen as the tires of the Antichrist. "Why do you hate runflats?" "Because everyone else does!"
Why are you "saddened"? Silly comment. If you like your runflats, more power to you. But I have to ask - have you ever driven an MC with "normal" tires? If not, how do you know that you wouldn't be happier with far better ride quality, better handling, better turn-in, and an all-around 1000% better driving experience? If you've tried and still prefer your runflats, that's fine. If you haven't, then you have NO idea why those of us who absolutely despise the horrible things hate them so much.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by minicooperwill
I've had absolutely zero problems with my runflats. Frankly, I'm a little saddened by the herd mentality here that the RFs are now basically seen as the tires of the Antichrist. "Why do you hate runflats?" "Because everyone else does!"
i am not following any herd, even the cheapo nitto neogens seemed better than rfs, the gs-d3s seemed way better. i had 2 sets of oem rfs and they always bubbled on sides and were difficult to fine tune psi adjustments due to stiff sidewall. i think you may not be driving the mini to its fullest to notice, daily driving you may not notice anything but that the rf's are harsher ride, on the twists there is a whole new crop of tires that are 10 times better. i won't even mention how much better the toyo r888s are.
 

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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by minicooperwill
With runflats and roadside assistance, why so insistent on a spare?
Old Boy Scout motto always sticks with me, "Be prepared!"

Plus if I ever chose to get away from runflats, or when I have snow tires on, I would have a spare.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2009 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by b13mini
Old Boy Scout motto always sticks with me, "Be prepared!"

Plus if I ever chose to get away from runflats, or when I have snow tires on, I would have a spare.
Nothing wrong with being prepared!

How about an update? Is your car done yet? Is it ready for the boat?
 
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by KevinC
Why are you "saddened"? Silly comment. If you like your runflats, more power to you. But I have to ask - have you ever driven an MC with "normal" tires? If not, how do you know that you wouldn't be happier with far better ride quality, better handling, better turn-in, and an all-around 1000% better driving experience? If you've tried and still prefer your runflats, that's fine. If you haven't, then you have NO idea why those of us who absolutely despise the horrible things hate them so much.
I explain in my reply why I am "saddened." Didn't you read it?

My comment isn't any sillier than naming a car after a hillbilly.

The only MC cars I've ever driven would be loaners from the dealer. I never bothered to check to see what kinds of tires they were on. However, my '05 MCS had RFs when I got it and we switched to non-RFs when we got new wheels. That is how I know. Was I "far happier"? No. Was the ride quality far better? No. So I still think its merely the power of suggestion that has so many of you despising the horrible things you hate so much. 100% better? Give me a break!
 
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by minicooperwill
Nothing wrong with being prepared!

How about an update? Is your car done yet? Is it ready for the boat?

Car finished production yesterday! Now just waiting it's turn for a ride across the pond.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by minicooperwill
My comment isn't any sillier than naming a car after a hillbilly.
Are you always so nice?

"Jethro" isn't a hillbilly, it's Jethro Tull, my great-great-great (or some number of greats) grandfather. If you don't know who he was, look it up. Please give the personal insults a rest.

So you have experienced runflats/non-runflats on the same car, and are happy. You are the first and only person I've encountered that feels this way, but more power to you. But no need to feel "saddened" that me and many others abhor them, just be happy that you've made the right choice for you.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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Are you always so nice?

"Jethro" isn't a hillbilly, it's Jethro Tull, my great-great-great (or some number of greats) grandfather. If you don't know who he was, look it up. Please give the personal insults a rest.

So you have experienced runflats/non-runflats on the same car, and are happy. You are the first and only person I've encountered that feels this way, but more power to you. But no need to feel "saddened" that me and many others abhor them, just be happy that you've made the right choice for you.
I try to not stoop to the level of the people who reply to my posts, but you bring out the worst in me, I guess. So am I always so nice? Usually, but sometimes I do respond in kind.

Jethro Bodine is a hillbilly. He lived in Beverly Hills. If you don't know who he was, look it up. You never indicated that the Jethro you refer to was from your ancestry.

The reason I made sure I quoted you in my response is to show that YOU started it. So don't act as if I did, when it was you. Just because you don't agree with what I said gives you no right to say it is silly; how insulting!! And haven't you ever heard that you shouldn't tell people how to feel? Anyway, if you expect to be rude and get away with it, try it on someone besides me.

TBH, I really couldn't care less about everyone dissing on the RFs. I actually find it humorous. The other people I know (yes, there are indeed others) who like their RFs chuckle about it.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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I pulled some figures from Tire Rack, based on their customer surveys, can’t say all of them are on this forum.

CUSTOMER SURVEY DATA------------Dunlop Star Spec-----------Dunlop DSST
Would Buy Again? ----------------------- 9.0------------------------4.6
Hydroplane Resistance--------------------8.1------------------------6.9
Wet Traction-----------------------------8.6------------------------7.3
Cornering Stability------------------------9.3------------------------7.9
Dry Traction------------------------------9.5-----------------------8.2
Steering Response------------------------9.2------------------------8.2
Ride Comfort-----------------------------8.2------------------------5.4
Noise Comfort----------------------------7.7------------------------5.7
Treadwear-------------------------------7.5------------------------5.7
Price*------------------------------------$111.00-------------------$319.00
* Star Spec 215/40-17 & DSST 205/45-17
 

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Old Nov 11, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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Well I would like to add that I value both opinions! Helps me to make an informed, user-based decisions!
 
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Old Nov 15, 2009 | 09:46 PM
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whatarerunflats...donotmindmeasking

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