MINI Cooper MINI Cooper specs
 

Go Back   North American Motoring > 2nd Generation MINIs > Stock Problems/Issues
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


Welcome to North American Motoring !
Welcome to North American Motoring,

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!


» Latest Main Topics
New to NAM
0 Replies, 46 Views
Advertisement

Reply
 
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 07-13-2009, 06:14 PM
Hokidachi Hokidachi is offline
Neutral
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 3
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Gallery
Replacement key

Hi,

This is my first post on the forum. I have to say that I found tons of information here!

I bought a used Cooper R56 (2007) last week, pepper white with a black roof. I love it...
Unfortunately the car came with only one key. So I went to the closest Mini dealership and asked two things:

1 - Deactivate the missing key (yeah I am suspicious)
They said each key has a number: key 1, key 2... and that they will deactivate the key I don't have for $170. I said "what?", $170 to plug a computer and uncheck a checkbox?? I paid $170...

2 - Get a brand new key
They said you need to buy two things, the radio remote control ($327.08) and the slide-in key ($41.76). Again, I said "what?" I paid $368.84...

So with taxes I had a $538.84 invoice just because the car did not come with 2 keys when I bought it...
If you're about to buy used Mini with only one key, you should definitely talk about the related cost in the negotiation!

Hokidachi
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-13-2009, 06:18 PM
mubex mubex is offline
2nd Gear
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 105
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Gallery
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-13-2009, 07:02 PM
old81 old81 is offline
M6
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Louisville, Colorado
Posts: 7,421
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Gallery
Garage
Now that you have that taken care of.... Congratulations on a new MINI.

Welcome to NAM and how about a few pictures of your 07?

Enjoy your new MINI and join in the fun of driving one of the best.
__________________
Don Suiter - http://mini5280.org - Colorado Club
Scooter
--- MMC #569 DSOC#228 07 DS/W MCSa, Mods-Yes
RocketDog
--- Countryman ALL4 S Oxford Green/White - finish: 11/8/2010:(Jan. 3 at the dealer, dlvr on Jan. 5, 2011) picasa pics
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-13-2009, 08:16 PM
Hokidachi Hokidachi is offline
Neutral
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 3
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Gallery
Thanks old81!
I have ordered a bunch of things from various websites, I'll post pictures as soon as I'll have installed them

Hokidachi
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-14-2009, 05:26 AM
ecupip ecupip is offline
3rd Gear
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 265
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Gallery
That is bull about deactivating a key. It works that all the keys you want programmed need to be done at the same time. Any keys that aren't programmed when the new key is programed will not start the car.
__________________
08' MCS, PW/BLK, 17" Web Spoke, CWP, Rear fogs, White turns, AutoTran, NAV, All Packages, Xenons, Brushed Alum, Carbon Lounge, Cream
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-14-2009, 08:44 AM
Hokidachi Hokidachi is offline
Neutral
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 3
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Gallery
Nope this is not how it worked (at least with my car).

They ordered the second key, and they just handed it to me 5 days later. They did not have to do anything on the car. I just opened the car with the old key and then started it with the new one. That was it, no need to reprogram the original key.

Hokidachi
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-22-2009, 08:59 AM
bumbles44 bumbles44 is offline
1st Gear
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 45
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Gallery
I was kind of suspicious when I bought my MC, the sales mgr tries to sell U everything under the sun, but I actually purchased the keyfob protection plan...or whetever it is called. Cost me a couple of hundred bucks but I knew if I had to replace a fob it would cost more. I had a "regular" key made for a ford pickup, it had a chip inside and it cost me $75 -- I could only imagine how much it would cost to replace this marvel of engineering.
__________________
MC; Mellow Yellow w/ Black Roof & Mirrors & Bonnet Stripes; Interior Black w/ Carbon trim; 6-spd Steptronic Auto; Sport mode; Auto-climate ctrl; dual sunroof; cold weather pckg.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-11-2010, 12:07 AM
haygood haygood is offline
2nd Gear
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 144
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Gallery
Funny, other threads on NAM show people getting keys from the dealership for $160, or for eBay for less. You can reprogram the keys yourself by pressing the right buttons in the right sequence. This programs the keys you program and eliminates any other keys so they don't work. Works on everything built past 07/04, if I recall correctly.
__________________
2008 PW MCSCm Sport, Premium w/ Auto A/C deleted
35% tint, non-run-flats, M7 strut tower brace, brake pulsar, 16%, JCW airbox w/ K&N, Wilwood 12.25" BBK, Web Spokes on 15% spacers, Koni FSD's, IE adjustable camber plates, Alta 22mm rear bar, Dice Silverline, M7 USS, Top Commander (doesn't work).
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-11-2010, 06:10 AM
klricks klricks is offline
4th Gear
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Grants Pass, OR
Posts: 419
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Gallery
When I got my Clubman the dealer/transport company lost one of the Comfort Access keyfobs.

The dealer ordered me a new keyfob and mailed it to me. I am 200 miles from the dealer.
The buttons on the new keyfob worked and it would start the car if placed in the cradle but the comfort access portion did not work.

Dealer said that there can only be 2 CA fobs associated and they the would have to deactivate the missing fob and program in the new one.

I found that people at the dealer were confused at how the key / programming work.
When I went to the dealer for an unscheduled visit... TPMS went off and found I had a nail in a tire..... While I was there I asked about having the keyfob programmed. ... the service adviser dude, (the guy that comes to the waiting area to give you the bad news), tried to tell me to just put the new keyfob in the cradle and drive a 100 miles and it will fix itself. Since that is not what I was told over the phone and read in NAM and I was 200+ miles from home, I pressed the issue to the Service Manager.... The manager chided the adviser dude and suddenly found time to get my car in and reprogrammed... took about half an hour and they waived the tire repair.
__________________
2010 Clubman - Dark Silver/Silver - Automatic - Sunroof - Comfort Access - Front Fogs
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-11-2010, 08:49 AM
haygood haygood is offline
2nd Gear
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Texas
Posts: 144
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Gallery
Interesting, so it sounds like CA is another dealer programmed system. Too bad. ...not that its often a problem, just one more thing we need them for.
__________________
2008 PW MCSCm Sport, Premium w/ Auto A/C deleted
35% tint, non-run-flats, M7 strut tower brace, brake pulsar, 16%, JCW airbox w/ K&N, Wilwood 12.25" BBK, Web Spokes on 15% spacers, Koni FSD's, IE adjustable camber plates, Alta 22mm rear bar, Dice Silverline, M7 USS, Top Commander (doesn't work).
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-11-2010, 01:01 PM
reRESERVEDMD's Avatar
reRESERVEDMD reRESERVEDMD is offline
3rd Gear
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Downers Grove, IL
Posts: 180
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Send a message via Skype™ to reRESERVEDMD
Gallery
I don't know how to say it, but you got screwed man... up your rear!

I had an issue with a MINI dealership recently that was similar to yours. The car didn't come with the second key. The sales person said that they will call the original owner. Making it short, they didn't and lied to me along with the sales manager, so I called general manager and MINI USA. The latter took care of everything for me and now, I'm getting a brand spanking new key from them at no charge

Moral of the story: don't just whip out your wallet at the dealer. They're out there to screw with you, so why not just fight for what you should be getting first?

Congratulations on new MINI!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-12-2010, 02:42 PM
MisterClean MisterClean is offline
3rd Gear
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 189
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Gallery
Before the John Hancock.....

Moral of the story...make sure you jot down notes before purchasing a car about all the "little" things.

On my previous car (non MINI) I didn't get a second key, didn't get the free tank of gas (part of prepping the car) and didn't get a manual for the car. You better know it that when I went to the MINI dealership for my current car I asked about all those things (politely) BEFORE signing the contract.

I'm sure there are those exceptions that will go the mile after you buy the car but you have to lookout for yourself first then enter the contract. It's not unreasonable to ask for a second key, to get some accessories free or discounted and other small things. Just do it before buying the car or you'll have a sour experience afterwords wishing you had asked.
__________________

Josh & "Austin" 2009 MINI Cooper Justa Awesome
-Sport seats-Xenon lights-16in Wheels w/ Yokohama Envigor Tires
-Automatic wipers-"Resist All" package-White bonnet and boot stripes
-Chrome side mirrors & "S" Scuttles*Only AMSOIL for Austin to Sip*
-JCW Grille & Chrome Fuel door
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-13-2010, 04:58 AM
Walt Walt is offline
4th Gear
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 308
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hokidachi View Post
Nope this is not how it worked (at least with my car).

They ordered the second key, and they just handed it to me 5 days later. They did not have to do anything on the car. I just opened the car with the old key and then started it with the new one. That was it, no need to reprogram the original key.
Ditto.

I ordered a second key for just under $60. It was a regular size key, but without the remote function built into the case. They had it for my pick up, the very next morning.

Likewise, nothing to program. It came with an already programmed "chip" inside the mostly empty case.
__________________
2003 MINI Cooper: Solid Gold Metallic (859); Kunstleder/Panther Schwarz (K7PN), Anthracite; Black roof, mirrors, stripes, bumper strips; Premimum Pkg; Sports Pkg; Winter Pkg; Smokers Pkg; Retrofit '05 oddments/utility box

Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-15-2011, 02:09 PM
Heaven Heaven is offline
1st Gear
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 15
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Gallery
My used 2008 can with only one key as well, I have a very strong suspicion that the other key was "retained" by the dealership and reprogrammed for someone else's car (probably an employee, but perhaps sold to someone else). Well, the told me the car had only one key before I bought it, so that was that. I would like to (and NEED) a backup key. I have the keyless entry, but just need a regular key in case I drop the fop or something else befalls me.
Do I get that at the parts counter, or what?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-15-2011, 05:56 PM
RJKimbell RJKimbell is offline
6th Gear
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 4,461
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Gallery
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heaven View Post
My used 2008 can with only one key as well, I have a very strong suspicion that the other key was "retained" by the dealership and reprogrammed for someone else's car (probably an employee, but perhaps sold to someone else). Well, the told me the car had only one key before I bought it, so that was that. I would like to (and NEED) a backup key. I have the keyless entry, but just need a regular key in case I drop the fop or something else befalls me.
Do I get that at the parts counter, or what?
There is no "regular key" that IS used to start your MINI, there is however a Key inside your Key Fob (ONLY opens Doors), turn the Fob over and push on the Silver Colored Button, then pull on the thumb impressioned black oval part, Waaalaaa...a KEY!!
__________________
"Good Golly Miss Molly" MATOC #004
Mods: British Flag Side Scuttles, Garmin 2495LMT+EcoRoute HD, Union Jack/Finish Flag Boot Emblem, 35% Tint, JCW Grill, Chrome Line Exterior, 16x7 Enkei T Fork Wheels, Chrome Mirror Caps, Zimmerman Rotors - Akebono Euro Ceramic Pads, OEM Roof Rack, Alta 22mm Rear Sway Bar & Alta Rear Endlinks, PIAA Xtreme White Headlights and Fogs, OEM Driving Lights...

Last edited by RJKimbell; 01-22-2011 at 08:10 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 01-15-2011, 06:01 PM
Heaven Heaven is offline
1st Gear
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 15
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Gallery
Yes I know about that key in the fob, , , thanks, , so, I have to but another key just like the one I have in order to be assured of operating my car? And it's 300 or more?
I don't need another keyless type, are there any other options?
Where do I get whatever key I need, at the parts department at the dealership?
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-15-2011, 06:50 PM
RJKimbell RJKimbell is offline
6th Gear
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 4,461
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Gallery
Garage
If you bought your MINI at a Dealership, I would start with your SA, he/she should have owned up to not giving you a 2nd Key Fob!! If you bought it from a Non-MINI Dealership, then yes the Parts Counter @ a MINI Dealership is where you will likely need to start.
__________________
"Good Golly Miss Molly" MATOC #004
Mods: British Flag Side Scuttles, Garmin 2495LMT+EcoRoute HD, Union Jack/Finish Flag Boot Emblem, 35% Tint, JCW Grill, Chrome Line Exterior, 16x7 Enkei T Fork Wheels, Chrome Mirror Caps, Zimmerman Rotors - Akebono Euro Ceramic Pads, OEM Roof Rack, Alta 22mm Rear Sway Bar & Alta Rear Endlinks, PIAA Xtreme White Headlights and Fogs, OEM Driving Lights...
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01-15-2011, 07:01 PM
Heaven Heaven is offline
1st Gear
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 15
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Gallery
He claimed the previous owner didn't turn in the other, and couldn't find it
and that he called her about it. Like I said, I suspect he kept it and can turn a profit on it somehow.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 01-15-2011, 08:35 PM
MP1.6T MP1.6T is offline
4th Gear
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Northern California
Posts: 474
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Gallery
A few points

1. You can mail/internet order keys from dealers that sell that way--Morristown, etc. They need your drivers license and registration fax/scan, just as the dealer should require on a chip interlock type key if done in person. It is cut based on the VIN number and Mini's records. Purchasing that way is at some discount to list. Still have to deal with the programming cost, but that saves some on the parts cost.

2. For any cars bought CPO, see if two keys are required under CPO if one is missing. As I recall that was Audi's CPO deal when I bought one of those.

3. Yes I suppose some dealers keep keys here and there. I would bet though a bunch more are "lost" by lessees who don't turn them in, by auction companies that somehow don't forward all the keys they have and the like. Obviously the keys on ebay have to come from somewhere, and it's a fair bet they aren't all from wrecks.

Last edited by MP1.6T; 01-15-2011 at 11:49 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 01-16-2011, 05:29 AM
Heaven Heaven is offline
1st Gear
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 15
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Gallery
Thanks, I appreciate the info -- what is CPO?
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 01-16-2011, 10:41 AM
RJKimbell RJKimbell is offline
6th Gear
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 4,461
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Gallery
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heaven View Post
Thanks, I appreciate the info -- what is CPO?
"Certified Pre-Owned"
__________________
"Good Golly Miss Molly" MATOC #004
Mods: British Flag Side Scuttles, Garmin 2495LMT+EcoRoute HD, Union Jack/Finish Flag Boot Emblem, 35% Tint, JCW Grill, Chrome Line Exterior, 16x7 Enkei T Fork Wheels, Chrome Mirror Caps, Zimmerman Rotors - Akebono Euro Ceramic Pads, OEM Roof Rack, Alta 22mm Rear Sway Bar & Alta Rear Endlinks, PIAA Xtreme White Headlights and Fogs, OEM Driving Lights...
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 01-20-2011, 07:14 PM
Heaven Heaven is offline
1st Gear
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 15
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Gallery
Oh yes, it was CPO and thank you ~
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 02-12-2011, 06:17 PM
Heaven Heaven is offline
1st Gear
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 15
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Gallery
Ha, interesting, they called to tell me the key was "found" and now I have it!
thank you, whomever
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 06-16-2011, 03:29 PM
abbey1 abbey1 is offline
Neutral
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 10
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heaven View Post
My used 2008 can with only one key as well, I have a very strong suspicion that the other key was "retained" by the dealership and reprogrammed for someone else's car (probably an employee, but perhaps sold to someone else). Well, the told me the car had only one key before I bought it, so that was that. I would like to (and NEED) a backup key. I have the keyless entry, but just need a regular key in case I drop the fop or something else befalls me.
Do I get that at the parts counter, or what?

Heaven, the SAME with me! On purchase of 2006 MC S April 2010, no second key. However, as have had numerous problems with non mc dealership where mini purchased, all of the sudden..for service this June 2011,..a second full key appeared on my key chain. HUH? ..and I never after purchase, asked for this second key..and nobody at the dealership June 2011 told me. On one hand I'm thankful to have a second key, on the other hand being a bit cynical about this non-mini dealership..

Many Thanks

Many Thanks for ALL responses

Last edited by abbey1; 06-17-2011 at 01:07 PM. Reason: don't need other info
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 06-16-2011, 04:09 PM
Walt Walt is offline
4th Gear
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 308
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by abbey1 View Post
Any input..were they lying to me at the very onset, (only 1 key) or were they detaining the 2nd key for reasons not quite ethical?

Many Thanks for ALL responses
Was this MINI traded in for new vehicle from this non-MINI dealership? I would guess something less sinister. The other customer might have (finally) found the 2nd set of keys and dropped them off at the dealership with the hopes that, someday, they will work their way to you. With each MINI that came in, they would test the keys to see if they worked on that car, and you were the winner.
__________________
2003 MINI Cooper: Solid Gold Metallic (859); Kunstleder/Panther Schwarz (K7PN), Anthracite; Black roof, mirrors, stripes, bumper strips; Premimum Pkg; Sports Pkg; Winter Pkg; Smokers Pkg; Retrofit '05 oddments/utility box

Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2011, 04:09 PM
 
 
 
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump


MINI CooperMINI Cooper PrivacyMINI Cooper Terms of UseMINI Cooper Guidelines MINI Cooper Advertising The North American MINI Cooper Community
  MINI Cooper news, forums, FAQs, and reviews for enthusiasts and owners of the North American MINI Cooper
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:25 AM.
 Copyright © 2002-2008 North American Motoring. All Rights Reserved.     Powered by vBulletin and vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:25 AM.



Powered by vBulletin and vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.
North American Motoring is an independently operated web site supporting MINI owners and enthusiastsworldwide. As such it has no official relationship with MINI USA, BMW AG, or BMW of North America.All original artwork and design is Copyright © 2002-2004 North American Motoring.
Admin Account Passwords