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Has anyone tried one of these? I'm thinking about putting one on my MINI and my JEEP. My real plan is to get the one with a nipple, because then I could just attach a length of hose when I'm changing the oil, and I wouldn't have to remove than skid-plate eveytime I change my MINI oil. The site mentions that your car has to have enough ground clearance...but I don't really see this as being a problem.
MOSS is selling them under their new products on the website, but they're not selling the nipple ones. I'm planning on buying direct.
(mr. moderator, if you think it's bad manners to post from "the other" forum, just delete my reply here. but we went over this already.......)
>>Has anyone tried one of these? I'm thinking about putting one on my MINI and my JEEP. My real plan is to get the one with a nipple, because then I could just attach a length of hose when I'm changing the oil, and I wouldn't have to remove than skid-plate eveytime I change my MINI oil. The site mentions that your car has to have enough ground clearance...but I don't really see this as being a problem.
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>>MOSS is selling them under their new products on the website, but they're not selling the nipple ones. I'm planning on buying direct.
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>>So does anyone have any thoughts on these?
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Hey ChiTown Coop,
I've been deployed for 6 months. Can I ask you to curb your use of the word "nipple".
Thanks,
Spike
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you have said the skid plate is in your way, you may want to check this out Oil Pump
think might get these valves for the other cars too!
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Thanks for pointing that out to me. I had forgotten all about those things. What that would be REALLY handy for is draining the fuel out of my Vespa tank every winter. Quick and easy, I bet!
UPDATE: I ordered drain plugs for both of my cars today. Also bought a couple of retaining clips for $1 apiece for a little added security. I'll let you know what I think.
Have contemplated it as well. Only concern I see is that if it extends past the inside lip of the original hole, it would trap the goopiest oil in the pan. Hmmm.
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"Only concern I see is that if it extends past the inside lip of the original hole, it would trap the goopiest oil in the pan. Hmmm."
this depends on the oil pan design. i actually experimented on one of my other cars to see how much got hung up - it turned to be almost nothing, since the oil pan had a hollow where the drain was.
if you're concerned , you can put the car at a slight nose up angle when you drain the oil.
>>I had one on my Acura Integra for about 3 years and changed my oil myself.
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>>Couldnt be easier-- Warm up the car, throw the can underneath, hit the valve, walk away and let it drain--
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>>Mike
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I am holding one in my hands right this moment. Haven't installed it yet. Bought directly from YM International Co. in Bellevue, WA. (www.fumotovalve.com)
Accoridng to Fumoto, the valve might require a little more effort to open and close in the beginning, and I'm wondering if that's because of the lack of lubrication in the ball valve part (friction?) Everything I read about the Fumotovalve is very positive and foolproof. Keep in mind that the MINI has a 5" ground clearance, and the nipple will extend approx. 3/4 " more. Cost is $22.95 for the F-106 standard model and $25.95 for the F-106N with nipple.
"Keep in mind that the MINI has a 5" ground clearance, and the nipple will extend approx. 3/4 " more."
(i must sound like i have stock in them or something.) the mini oil drain is threaded horizontally off the back of the oil pan, you don't lose any ground clearance with either the stock plug or the fumoto.
before you get oil on them, you think there is something wrong because they are hard to turn.
mr. fumoto drain man on everything from motocross bikes to mcs,
flyboy 2160
When doing a S/C pulley install (like in step 14 of Randy Webb's How-to),
the Fumoto drain valve must be removed before jacking up the engine in order to clear the power steering fan.
I enjoy the convenience of the valve. I'm just posting this since I searched for Fumoto and pulley and didn't find this information.
When doing a S/C pulley install (like in step 14 of Randy Webb's How-to),
the Fumoto drain valve must be removed before jacking up the engine in order to clear the power steering fan.
I enjoy the convenience of the valve. I'm just posting this since I searched for Fumoto and pulley and didn't find this information.
I did my pulley before I did the Fumoto drain valve install and didn't know that. The valve doesn't stick out very far, next time I have the engine up I'll have to check that out.
I agree with flyboy, the oil pan has less clearance than the installed Fumoto drain valve. If you hit anything it will be the oil pan that gets taken out not the Fumoto!
I have one and it makes oil changes a breeze and never again an over tightened drain plug.
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Good advice. I too did the pulley before the Fumoto drain valve, so there was no problem in my case. The nippled valve is the best, because with some 8" of 3/8" hose, you can go directly from the valve to your oil recepticle and not spill a drop (except around the filter).
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Good advice. I too did the pulley before the Fumoto drain valve, so there was no problem in my case. The nippled valve is the best, because with some 8" of 3/8" hose, you can go directly from the valve to your oil recepticle and not spill a drop (except around the filter).
Now I wish I had the nipple one.
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Does anyone know if it is still ok to use the Fumoto on the R56 since the drain plug faces straight down? It seems like it would be subject to road debris
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Check my best guess is that wouldn't be a good idea. If you drag bottom, & you will at some point. You'll snap off that drain valve with disastrous consequences.
Check my best guess is that wouldn't be a good idea. If you drag bottom, & you will at some point. You'll snap off that drain valve with disastrous consequences.
Yeah I just really wish I could use it...it's such a great idea and I plan on doing my oil change often and I'd rather avoid those horror stories of stripped pans...does the fumoto stick out that much more than stock? if a skid plate were installed that should eliminate that problem right? I'm trying to figure out my options before this summer when I do my own oil change...also the R56 uses a copper washer to seal the pan plug, would make it impossible to use the fumoto for that reason as well?
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From what I've been able to gather the oil pan on your R56 is made of steel not aluminum like the R53 pans. IMO stripped threads will be less of a problem, but there are those people who will still manage to strip one out. The copper washer won't be a problem if you do install a Fumoto. It may be safe to do one if it was protected by a skidplate, but I don't know for sure.
From what I've been able to gather the oil pan on your R56 is made of steel not aluminum like the R53 pans. IMO stripped threads will be less of a problem, but there are those people who will still manage to strip one out. The copper washer won't be a problem if you do install a Fumoto. It may be safe to do one if it was protected by a skidplate, but I don't know for sure.
Ok thank you...yeah I'm trying to find out all my options before I order all my stuff for my oil change this summer...i really hope I can put the fumoto, but we'll see....now do you mean I'll need to install the fumoto with the copper washer, or can I use the one they provide with the fumoto?
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The Fumoto on my R53 came with a rubber washer. I don't know if I overtightened it or what, but the washer broke, giving me an oil leak. Last time I did an oil change, I swapped the washer for an aluminium crush washer and no more oil leak.
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Thanks for pointing that out to me. I had forgotten all about those things. What that would be REALLY handy for is draining the fuel out of my Vespa tank every winter. Quick and easy, I bet!
UPDATE: I ordered drain plugs for both of my cars today. Also bought a couple of retaining clips for $1 apiece for a little added security. I'll let you know what I think.
What kinds of retaining clips did you get. I plan on ordering the valve here soon and I do have to say im a little worried about it opening w/o me knowing even though im sure it will NEVER happen...but hey you never know.
Thanks
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What kinds of retaining clips did you get. I plan on ordering the valve here soon and I do have to say im a little worried about it opening w/o me knowing even though im sure it will NEVER happen...but hey you never know.
Thanks
See Fumoto's site here http://www.fumotousa.com/
the clip is just a hose spring clip to place over the valve handle to hold it down. it is recommended - according for them - for extreme industrial or farm applications where something might hit the valve.
I've used Fumoto for years, never had a problem, do not see the need. Once you get one and play with it you'll see that accidental opening would be difficult.
Unhappily...there's no way I can see using one on my 07 ... the straight down drain means this would stick straight down an inch from the pan....bad bad bad. But, I haven't heard a GEN2 owner yet describe any of the horror stories common with GEN1 for stripped/unremovable bungs. Once I change my own oil on the 07 I'll let ya know if I change my mind tho.
'79; 02 S {02 - 09}, 07 S
