R50/53 R53 Speed Limiter?
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R53 Speed Limiter?
Hey so I got a '02 R53 6 days ago and driving today I decided to see how fast I could get her to go until I chickened out. 4th Gear I hit 110 mph and it stayed there would not go any further just stayed at 110 and the tach was stuck too at whatever RPM (don't know I was watching to road). So I was wondering if it is governed?
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Yes of course it was closed course.... I live near a Dyno and want to see what it is making right now, as far as I can tell it has a 15% reduction? Cannot tell it just has ALTA Version 2 or something on it. aftermarket injectors and spark plugs and I think an aftermarket exhaust? I've heard it pop a few times (the good pop not the bad kind).
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#5
Were you at RPM redline in 4th gear? There is a fuel cutoff at redline which will not allow any more power thus you will stay near redline and at the same speed.
Did you try to shift into 5th gear to see if the car would accelerate past 110?
If not, you might want to try 5th gear and maybe even 6th gear.
Did you try to shift into 5th gear to see if the car would accelerate past 110?
If not, you might want to try 5th gear and maybe even 6th gear.
#7
I agree with the above, perhaps shifting into the next gear. If you are unable to look at the tachometer while driving those speeds, you should probably avoid them. While we are on the subject of boost loss, you could possibly use a new bypass valve if it hasn't been replaced yet. Your mini will absolutely surpass 110 with stock limiter, drive safe.
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No reason to disable the speed limiter. Seems to me yours should be dialed back to about 85 for street use.
The fastest I've had my MINI has been 124mph on the back straight at Mid-Ohio just before the braking point for next turn. With a car shaped like a brick I'm pretty sure that's all it would do even on a longer straight.
The fastest I've had my MINI has been 124mph on the back straight at Mid-Ohio just before the braking point for next turn. With a car shaped like a brick I'm pretty sure that's all it would do even on a longer straight.
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No reason to disable the speed limiter. Seems to me yours should be dialed back to about 85 for street use.
The fastest I've had my MINI has been 124mph on the back straight at Mid-Ohio just before the braking point for next turn. With a car shaped like a brick I'm pretty sure that's all it would do even on a longer straight.
The fastest I've had my MINI has been 124mph on the back straight at Mid-Ohio just before the braking point for next turn. With a car shaped like a brick I'm pretty sure that's all it would do even on a longer straight.
#17
BTW, gear ratio and theoretical speed calculators are on line and interesting. But they don't account for tires, wind, humidity and so forth.
#18
Based on what I have always been told/heard about r53, 5+6 are BOTH overdrive when the marh is done to take wheel size into account...but since wrong info can somehow become fact or internet lore, if you have a better scource, please post!!
The info I Have...
and the 134 is due to a euro manufactures "gentleman's agreement"....but a few tuners can remove it...
The info I Have...
and the 134 is due to a euro manufactures "gentleman's agreement"....but a few tuners can remove it...
The 1st generation MINI had two different gear ratios for manual transmissions.
The split is with the June 2004 build cars. Those built up and including June 2004 are in the first Gear Ratio column, July 2004 to the end of 1st generation MINIs are in the second Gear Ratio column.
Gear Ratio <= 7/04 Ratio >= 7/04
1 11.425 12.789
2 7.181 7.793
3 5.397 5.651
4 4.407 4.615
5 3.656 3.828
6 2.986 3.126
R 11.13 11.944
Read more: http://www.*********************/lib...#ixzz3GjzzsVKn
The split is with the June 2004 build cars. Those built up and including June 2004 are in the first Gear Ratio column, July 2004 to the end of 1st generation MINIs are in the second Gear Ratio column.
Gear Ratio <= 7/04 Ratio >= 7/04
1 11.425 12.789
2 7.181 7.793
3 5.397 5.651
4 4.407 4.615
5 3.656 3.828
6 2.986 3.126
R 11.13 11.944
Read more: http://www.*********************/lib...#ixzz3GjzzsVKn
Last edited by ZippyNH; 10-20-2014 at 07:13 PM.
#19
Don't know if this will load right for the 2003 tranny. Anyway, my experience with od is it is hard to get past the previous gear's rpm, hence od. My mini keeps climbing in 5/6. But, wtf do i know.
Gearbox:
Getrag
Transmission type:
manual
3-4th and R gear values effective, actual ratios 1.333/1.089 R 2.75
Number of gears:
6
Gear ratios (overall):
I
4.167 (11.43)
II
2.619 (7.18)
III
1.968 (5.4)
IV
1.608 (4.41)
V
1.333 (3.66)
VI
1.089 (2.99)
VII
()
VIII
()
R
4.06
Speed range
(max speed on gears,
top gear value theor.):
(km/h/mph)
I:
72 / 45
II:
114 / 71
III:
152 / 94
IV:
186 / 116
V:
224 / 139
VI:
274 / 170
VII:
/
VIII:
/
1000rpm speed:
(km/h/mph)
I:
10.2 / 6.3
II:
16.3 / 10.1
III:
21.7 / 13.5
IV:
26.5 / 16.5
V:
32 / 19.9
VI:
39.2 / 24.4
VII:
/
VIII:
/
Torque converter factor:
Final drive ratio std:
2.742
optional:
Gearbox:
Getrag
Transmission type:
manual
3-4th and R gear values effective, actual ratios 1.333/1.089 R 2.75
Number of gears:
6
Gear ratios (overall):
I
4.167 (11.43)
II
2.619 (7.18)
III
1.968 (5.4)
IV
1.608 (4.41)
V
1.333 (3.66)
VI
1.089 (2.99)
VII
()
VIII
()
R
4.06
Speed range
(max speed on gears,
top gear value theor.):
(km/h/mph)
I:
72 / 45
II:
114 / 71
III:
152 / 94
IV:
186 / 116
V:
224 / 139
VI:
274 / 170
VII:
/
VIII:
/
1000rpm speed:
(km/h/mph)
I:
10.2 / 6.3
II:
16.3 / 10.1
III:
21.7 / 13.5
IV:
26.5 / 16.5
V:
32 / 19.9
VI:
39.2 / 24.4
VII:
/
VIII:
/
Torque converter factor:
Final drive ratio std:
2.742
optional:
#20
Based on what I have always been told/heard about r53, 5+6 are BOTH overdrive when the marh is done to take wheel size into account...but since wrong info can somehow become fact or internet lore, if you have a better scource, please post!!
The info I Have...
and the 134 is due to a euro manufactures "gentleman's agreement"....but a few tuners can remove it...
The info I Have...
and the 134 is due to a euro manufactures "gentleman's agreement"....but a few tuners can remove it...
My stock R53 has a Mini rated top speed of 150.
#21
Might be...heck have heard lots of different numbers tossed around...never gone that fast...who has a long enough straightaway and is willing to blow tires and die at that speed..so never worried about it..it simply does not matter for most....few can ever go much above the low hundred plus a couple teens...be it on a track or closed runway....
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I have consistently hit and maintained 131 mph (verified by both Torque app and GPS). It takes a bit to get there, but I'm not sure if that was on the limiter or drag induced. I that was in 6th with the pedal down on the floor. Mine is completely stock with 127k on the clock. I run a 215/45/R17 Goodyear Eagle Authority on the stock S-lites.
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I second the gps verified 131 claim. I had a 2004 r53 6 speed up until 2 months ago.
In August I had it to 131 in 6th a few times. That was all she had.
I had the car packed down with the typical travel stuff...entire rear area level with headrests, and a passenger.
The car had a k&n filter, and the one ball exhaust. Almost 130 k miles.
The last time I tried to go faster on a very long straight, the windshield a pillar trim on the drivers side tore away from the car at 131 mph and sucked the window gasket out. It scared the living ***** out of me and my passenger.....lol
Needless to say, I didn't do it again.
This was all done on a closed course and no birds or insects were harmed during testing.
Luckily I was very near the end of the first leg of my trip. I put the car in dads garage and took his on the next leg of the trip. I called ahead to the mini dealer in Sacramento and ordered the parts to fix it. 68 bucks total.
Came back to Texas, fixed the mini, and went on about our route 66 road trip. Before I made it home to tampa, the supercharger developed the death rattle. About 20 miles from home, I passed by the dealer I bought the r53 from. There was a JCW mini on the lot. Traded r53 in for r56 JCW few days later.
Sad to see it go but just didn't have any way to fix it right then, and the trans is out in my spare car.....so r56. The new car is much faster than the old one, but not as fun to drive.
No idea how fast the JCW is yet, but I will know in a few days as I am going back to Texas Saturday.
In August I had it to 131 in 6th a few times. That was all she had.
I had the car packed down with the typical travel stuff...entire rear area level with headrests, and a passenger.
The car had a k&n filter, and the one ball exhaust. Almost 130 k miles.
The last time I tried to go faster on a very long straight, the windshield a pillar trim on the drivers side tore away from the car at 131 mph and sucked the window gasket out. It scared the living ***** out of me and my passenger.....lol
Needless to say, I didn't do it again.
This was all done on a closed course and no birds or insects were harmed during testing.
Luckily I was very near the end of the first leg of my trip. I put the car in dads garage and took his on the next leg of the trip. I called ahead to the mini dealer in Sacramento and ordered the parts to fix it. 68 bucks total.
Came back to Texas, fixed the mini, and went on about our route 66 road trip. Before I made it home to tampa, the supercharger developed the death rattle. About 20 miles from home, I passed by the dealer I bought the r53 from. There was a JCW mini on the lot. Traded r53 in for r56 JCW few days later.
Sad to see it go but just didn't have any way to fix it right then, and the trans is out in my spare car.....so r56. The new car is much faster than the old one, but not as fun to drive.
No idea how fast the JCW is yet, but I will know in a few days as I am going back to Texas Saturday.
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I second the gps verified 131 claim. I had a 2004 r53 6 speed up until 2 months ago.
In August I had it to 131 in 6th a few times. That was all she had.
I had the car packed down with the typical travel stuff...entire rear area level with headrests, and a passenger.
The car had a k&n filter, and the one ball exhaust. Almost 130 k miles.
The last time I tried to go faster on a very long straight, the windshield a pillar trim on the drivers side tore away from the car at 131 mph and sucked the window gasket out. It scared the living ***** out of me and my passenger.....lol
Needless to say, I didn't do it again.
This was all done on a closed course and no birds or insects were harmed during testing.
Luckily I was very near the end of the first leg of my trip. I put the car in dads garage and took his on the next leg of the trip. I called ahead to the mini dealer in Sacramento and ordered the parts to fix it. 68 bucks total.
Came back to Texas, fixed the mini, and went on about our route 66 road trip. Before I made it home to tampa, the supercharger developed the death rattle. About 20 miles from home, I passed by the dealer I bought the r53 from. There was a JCW mini on the lot. Traded r53 in for r56 JCW few days later.
Sad to see it go but just didn't have any way to fix it right then, and the trans is out in my spare car.....so r56. The new car is much faster than the old one, but not as fun to drive.
No idea how fast the JCW is yet, but I will know in a few days as I am going back to Texas Saturday.
In August I had it to 131 in 6th a few times. That was all she had.
I had the car packed down with the typical travel stuff...entire rear area level with headrests, and a passenger.
The car had a k&n filter, and the one ball exhaust. Almost 130 k miles.
The last time I tried to go faster on a very long straight, the windshield a pillar trim on the drivers side tore away from the car at 131 mph and sucked the window gasket out. It scared the living ***** out of me and my passenger.....lol
Needless to say, I didn't do it again.
This was all done on a closed course and no birds or insects were harmed during testing.
Luckily I was very near the end of the first leg of my trip. I put the car in dads garage and took his on the next leg of the trip. I called ahead to the mini dealer in Sacramento and ordered the parts to fix it. 68 bucks total.
Came back to Texas, fixed the mini, and went on about our route 66 road trip. Before I made it home to tampa, the supercharger developed the death rattle. About 20 miles from home, I passed by the dealer I bought the r53 from. There was a JCW mini on the lot. Traded r53 in for r56 JCW few days later.
Sad to see it go but just didn't have any way to fix it right then, and the trans is out in my spare car.....so r56. The new car is much faster than the old one, but not as fun to drive.
No idea how fast the JCW is yet, but I will know in a few days as I am going back to Texas Saturday.
So this was back a while ago, I didn't know really anything about the mini. I eventually found out my bypass valve spring was broken in half, but it was stuck back in the chamber so it would make about 3lbs of boost. I dyno'd it and got 100whp and 105 ft-lb, with what was done it should have put down 200 whp. So this was really what happened was it was running out of power and since new car never had any idea lol. I went up to 115 not too long ago racing a MR2 hit 115 like nothing could have gone a lot farther but backed off due to coming close to traffic. I will probably try and get her to go a little faster come summer, I need to take care of some other things before doing so lol.
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I went up to 115 not too long ago racing a MR2 hit 115 like nothing could have gone a lot farther but backed off due to coming close to traffic. I will probably try and get her to go a little faster come summer, I need to take care of some other things before doing so lol.