Do you know how much it changed your speedometer?

 

I think the speedo will be just over 1 mph off at 60 mph; so basically no change. I'm planning on Yoko 215/45 for my next tire change as well.

 

According to the tire calculator it changes it very little..the 215/45/17 will read about 1 mph slower on the speedo.

I've read somewhere that the K104 is the equivalent of the Kumho 712s..I think grassroot motorsports had a tire test in feb 2004 and tested them. At $69 or so they are a good alternative to the yokos or toyos.

 

My speedo has always been about 4MPH faster than my true speed.

 

Have owned 88 (mostly sports) cars - and by FAR, the finest wet / dry / street / track tire ever, is the Toyo Proxis T1S. Am running 215.40.17's with 241HP.
Spike in Portland, Oregon (503) 222-MINI

 

i just thought it was just me with the custom speedo (4MPH faster)

 

I'm also looking to replace my near baldies?

wet-dry with no snow and mostly city driving not too spirited but not granny driving either.

Any comments out there for the Toyo Proxes?

 

I'm running 215/45/17 on kosei k1 17x7.5 not lowered not rubbing. Looks great in my opinion. The falken ziex 512 are quiet, another thing I like about them.

En que parte de la madre patria vives Calvo?
:smile:

 

yo soy de vitoria, y tu?..ahora trabajo en alemania, en karlsruhe!!

 

toyo proxes 4 are amazing digi highly suggest like glue.

 

Calvo,
Mi familia origina de canarias y andalucia. Creci en el caribe en la isla del encanto en un pueblo llamado cabo rojo. Ahora recido en el estado de nueva york en la region llamada long island. Veo que tu tambien andas lejos de casa.
Nunca he visitado europa pero espero poderlo hacer pronto.
Disfruta manejando tu UBERCOOPER.

 

The Toyo Proxes are great tires, no doubt. But for those who are concerned about cost......they are a bit pricey.

 

how is the noise on the TOYO's? That's where I'm leaning...

 

Proxe 4 tire noise is minimum. We have it in our Lexus and can barely hear them over a variety of surfaces. But they cost quite a bit more the K104 but not much more then a Falken or Yoko.

 

Have 215/45R17 on my '05 MCS, no rubbing and they stick way better than the 195/55R16 runflats.
Put on the BFG G-Force Sports. No road noise, should last a while and have held the road great during the last two storms to hit the Bay Area over the last couple of weeks. Very good pricing on them too. Check Tire Rack, should be right around $100.00.
I'm curious, for those running the ZIEX 512's, have you had them on your vehicles very long? If so, have you received decent mileage? Do the shoulders tend to wear away exceptionally fast? My personal experience in selling Falken for the past four years has been that most people didn't get anywhere near 20k miles on them, and this is on cars that we were taking off their O.E. tires at 50-60k on them. Just a question, I'm not trying to **** anyone off, I know everyone has an opinion, just trying to glean some info from all of my Mini brethren :smile:
Toyo has for the last bunch of years been one of the most highly awarded tire companies in the world. Something to keep in mind. Their top end stuff is very good.
Also, don't forget that Bridgestone, while not cheap, won the Ferrari contract for the Enzo and that speaks volumes about their quality and performance. The Fuzion ZRi is a new product that is made ultimately by Bridgestone and it is priced very competitively, again, see Tire Rack.

Later,
Blake (tire guy for 10 years)

 

The Kumho MX is considerably more performance oriented than the ES100's... Being a max performance tire, the MX is stickier, with sharper turn in and better overall handling characteristics - the other thing that's nice about them is that they are fairly quiet on the road. They have EXCELLENT grip in the dry and wet and are relatively cheap compared to their max performance competitors. It's a world class tire, IMHO. Besides that, it looks cool...

The ES100 is also a great choice... I'm on my second set of them for my street tires (I have a set of track wheels with Falken Azenis), and IMHO you cannot beat them on the bang-for-the-buck factor. The only reason I am not running Kumho MX's for my street tires is that they don't make any good 16" sizes right now, so I'm running the ES100's. If my street wheels were 17's, you can bet that they would have MX's on them.

You can't really go wrong with either tire - both are excellent for street driving, twisties, and autocross. The MX's are MUCH better for track days, however, as they resist chunking significantly better than the ES100's.

 

I'm running 215/45/17 MX's and I love them! Drove them in a downpour yesterday and they maintained their composure and grip much better than the Goodyear RSA (EMT) I had on stock. Another non-runflat advantage.

The grip in the dry is nothing short of stunning.