TCE Plus 4 Installed...finally.
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TCE Plus 4 Installed...finally.
First off, I want to thank Todd at TCE for being super supportive for their product and customer.
I had upgraded from stock to Plus2 in May, but after 2 track days I realized Plus2 was just not adequate for my track driving at Pacific Raceway International. So in July I decided to upgrade again to Plus 4, with 13.1"x1.1" rotors.
For one reason and another I didn't install the Plus4 until today. They fit perfectly with my 17x7.5" +42mm SSR Type C RS wheel, without spacers. There is at least 4mm of clearance between wheel and caliper.
Even in the quick 30min bedding drive I can tell the stopping power with Plus4 w/ Poly H is huge step up from stock sized Powerslot rotors with Ferodos DS2500. I almost got motion sickness because the G-force was way more than I'm use to.
The next items I need to install before my brake upgrade is complete is some brake ducts.
I've two track days this month, so will know more about the true potential of Plus4 soon.
Pictures of Plus4 installed.
http://picasaweb.google.com/allenhan...od02#slideshow
I had upgraded from stock to Plus2 in May, but after 2 track days I realized Plus2 was just not adequate for my track driving at Pacific Raceway International. So in July I decided to upgrade again to Plus 4, with 13.1"x1.1" rotors.
For one reason and another I didn't install the Plus4 until today. They fit perfectly with my 17x7.5" +42mm SSR Type C RS wheel, without spacers. There is at least 4mm of clearance between wheel and caliper.
Even in the quick 30min bedding drive I can tell the stopping power with Plus4 w/ Poly H is huge step up from stock sized Powerslot rotors with Ferodos DS2500. I almost got motion sickness because the G-force was way more than I'm use to.
The next items I need to install before my brake upgrade is complete is some brake ducts.
I've two track days this month, so will know more about the true potential of Plus4 soon.
Pictures of Plus4 installed.
http://picasaweb.google.com/allenhan...od02#slideshow
FWIW, I had a Plus 2 kit [well actually Plus 1 with the 12.2x0.81 rotor] and I roasted/burnt/warped them in only 1 track day. They lack the cooling and mass for high powered MINIs [also granted they were on my 360HP turbo R53, so they are probably fine for most MCS's]
Wilwood H compound are hella awesome. When I ran the DT BBK the H compound were too strong; I'd lock up the front wheels doing 110 if I pushed the pedal too hard. On a rotor even bigger [yours], I'd definitely recommend the Wilwood C compound for track work. They do require a lap to heat up, but they have slightly less coefficient of friction and thus are easier to modulate.
Cheers,
Ryan
Wilwood H compound are hella awesome. When I ran the DT BBK the H compound were too strong; I'd lock up the front wheels doing 110 if I pushed the pedal too hard. On a rotor even bigger [yours], I'd definitely recommend the Wilwood C compound for track work. They do require a lap to heat up, but they have slightly less coefficient of friction and thus are easier to modulate.
Cheers,
Ryan
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FWIW, I had a Plus 2 kit [well actually Plus 1 with the 12.2x0.81 rotor] and I roasted/burnt/warped them in only 1 track day. They lack the cooling and mass for high powered MINIs [also granted they were on my 360HP turbo R53, so they are probably fine for most MCS's]
Wilwood H compound are hella awesome. When I ran the DT BBK the H compound were too strong; I'd lock up the front wheels doing 110 if I pushed the pedal too hard. On a rotor even bigger [yours], I'd definitely recommend the Wilwood C compound for track work. They do require a lap to heat up, but they have slightly less coefficient of friction and thus are easier to modulate.
Cheers,
Ryan
Wilwood H compound are hella awesome. When I ran the DT BBK the H compound were too strong; I'd lock up the front wheels doing 110 if I pushed the pedal too hard. On a rotor even bigger [yours], I'd definitely recommend the Wilwood C compound for track work. They do require a lap to heat up, but they have slightly less coefficient of friction and thus are easier to modulate.
Cheers,
Ryan
If we're talking strictly track-day pads, I wouldn't waste your money on DS2500's. Since you now have significantly more leverage from the larger rotors, no matter what you'll have to re-learn the brakes a little bit. My recommendation for Wilwood C compound still stands. They don't bite hard when they're cold, and gradually get grippier as they get to operating temp, where they stay very consistent. They're less aggressive than the H compound everywhere, and also don't need dedicated rotors like the H compound prefers.
That's just my take on it. If you're going to get another set of pads get pads you'll actually use.
Do you plan on running your MINI on the street too? If so, my faves are right now are the Wilwood BP-10 compound. They can still tolerate a quick blast down the Dragon but are very rotor friendly and don't dust much either. They're also not nearly as grippy in terms of mu; they're a street pad.
Cheers,
Ryan
That's just my take on it. If you're going to get another set of pads get pads you'll actually use.
Do you plan on running your MINI on the street too? If so, my faves are right now are the Wilwood BP-10 compound. They can still tolerate a quick blast down the Dragon but are very rotor friendly and don't dust much either. They're also not nearly as grippy in terms of mu; they're a street pad.
Cheers,
Ryan
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