AX6 pads are $139 fronts and $132 rears just PM me your email address to order. The Bobcats have order buttons on our site, www.autoxcooper.com

 

looooooooooooooool. I love this

I hate this fact. I expected that the AX6 are less dusty or almsot the same as the Bobcats.

 

Would I run into any kind of problems running bobcats up front and something like mintex or hawks in back? I will be going with the plain brembo rotors front and back.
Just aggressive street driving, no track or autoX for now. Unfortunately, I have to get rotors at the same time as well as tires within 2 months or so, so I gotta keep the cost down. I'm loving the sound carbotech pads, but I would have a problem justifying the cost of those on front and back. Thanks.

 

Ummmm....Do Not use Bp20 pads for a track event! They lasted three sessions at WGI before turning to junk. I bought Poly A's for next time...

 

I'd stick w/ the same pads all the way around. There are numerous vendors here offering good package kits - rotors, pads, lines and fluid. Keep an eye out for special offers or group buys.

Just an example, You reference brembo rotors yet you can save a few bucks picking up ATE rotors which should allow you to buy the same pads all the way around.

 

I'm glad the brembo's I ordered were back ordered until the end of june...I'm going with the auto zone ones and I'm going to paint them. That will save me a good deal of money. I've already ordered the pads though. I went with the mintex on the back. I'll let you know how it goes. The way I see it, the money I saved on the rotors will go towards better tires.

 

I just ordered the package from AXC. Bobcat pads, TSW rotors, Ireland SS lines. I don't know anyone running this combo so I'm curious to see how it will pan out.

 

True. However BP20s are a good starting point for some. The problem I find is that you have varied levels of expectations when speaking with a customer about track day use.

On one hand you have the true track junky who's trying to get something durable for sustained hard use and they really need to be moved into Poly B in addition to a set of street pads for use to and from the event. Usually this level of customer is keen on the value of why he needs both. But often is like the next guy; looking for the magic pad that does both. If only it were so simple....

The other customer is the first timer I have a MINI and planning to run a session or two on the track with a local car club which promptly puts him in the station wagon lead follow session to start. But he's convinced he needs real race pads.....and winds up a with fast wear rate and no slots left in the rotor by the end of the day. Reality for him is the BP20 is the better starting point regardless of "I have 285whp" comments. And again this customer struggles with the concept of having to change pads, also looking for the secret dual-purpose pad.

Bottom line; it's hard to truly evaluate a customs needs, wants and skill level over the phone. If anyone plans on true track day use you really need to come to grips with the proper pads for your intended use. BBK or not. This WILL mean more than one compound.

For the Wilwood guys this means BP10 standard street, BP20 elevated street use and light or beginer track day, Poly D for AutoX and Poly B pads for the real hard core use. And any of the Poly pads must be accompanied by the fit of one of the BP pads as well.

 

I have no doubt that any vendor is in a difficult position to recommend a pad set for anybody over the phone, not knowing their skill level...I went with the 20's thinking "ohhh, I'm a beginner and it's a novice class anyway, I won't go thru a set of pads!" I should have known better than to think I wouldn't be going ***** out, I'm not that timid. My mistake for not getting better pads.

Yup...that's where I am now. I've got A's, D's, and a set of 10's for the street.

 

Another question would be, Would it be ok for auto-x'rs to run the AX-6 compound up front and just run oem's in the rear?

I know with the different EBC compounds up front, their web sight say it is ok to run stock in the rear.

 

Yes sure you can run different compounds for the rears and fronts. The roblem is the car leaning angle. If you put AX6 on the fronts and still use the OEM for the rears, the car will lean much more towards front. If you put AX6 on the rears and use OEM on the fronts, the car will not lean at all but the stopping power will be much less.

 

Carbotech and AutoXCooper do not recommend running OEM pads with any CT Pad. The pads are night and day in performance and any of the CT pads will cause the OEM pads to be over worked, over heated, and so on.

Would you be willing to give up 20% of your go power? Why give up 20% of your stopping power by running the wrong pads in the rear?

Some fav combos for ALL Cooper's.
Daily Driver, Bobcats all around
Daily with some AutoX, Bobcats all around for low dust, it's what I run.
Daily Driver low dust, Bobcats, but will run AX6 for AutoX
Daily Driver with same dust as OEM, run AX6 all around
DO NOT TRACK Bobcats or AX6 pads. Get CT XP Pads.
Track, XP10 front and XP8 rear. Most leave the XP8 in the rear and change out the fronts to AX6 or Bobcats for daily driving. Some do run the XP's all the time, but NOT on daily drivers.
Nice thing about CT pads is you can use any of them on the same rotors and once the pads are bedded you don't need to do it again.

 

I cannot speak with full authority on full stock set ups however I don't encourage anyone to make rear pad changes after the fit of a front brake kit. The only exception to that is for those who are doing a lot of track driving where the rear pads may not hold up to the sustained temperatures. Adding more rear brake torque, while nice, is sketchy at best given the cars wheel base- you'll often noe the inside wheel up in the air going into a corner; a sign that additional rear braking will be pretty ineffective.

 

I agree with Todd, that's why we like to run the same pad or one step down pad in the rears for the MINI.

 

Hmmmm,

So I definetly have to change out my pads and rotors before the next auto-x which is the end of this month.
And I will be going with the bobcats most likely,

Also, this might be a silly question, but where would i buy the cheapest brembo blanks?

 

http://www.mossmini.com/Shop/ViewPro...eIndexID=53106 for the brembo's

Or you could spend a few dollars more and get the TSW Rotors from www.AutoXCooper.com which work really well with the Bobcats and all pads because they don't get as hot as fast as many others. As of this posting I only have 2 sets of fronts ready to ship. The rears are on order.