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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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Going from bullets to ultraleggeras

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By doing this change, it looks like i'll be dropping about 2kg a corner. How significantly will the performance be enhanced? Has anyone done this change and if so can you post your opinions/views?

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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Old logic held that 1lb per corner impacts the car like 10lbs of weight. So 2kg is almost 4.5lb so with all 4 wheels it would be like removing 180lbs of weight.

My guess is you should notice the difference but this is not scientific logic.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ezpeasy
Old logic held that 1lb per corner impacts the car like 10lbs of weight. So 2kg is almost 4.5lb so with all 4 wheels it would be like removing 180lbs of weight.

My guess is you should notice the difference but this is not scientific logic.
Very good info to know, thanks! I knew unsprung weight is greatly magnified over 'sprung' weight, but never heard mention of an actual ratio. Cool
 
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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doubtful you'd notice a difference unless you have a standard Cooper
 
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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I'd heard of the 10:1 ratio myself too. I've run 16" RPF1s, and i noticed a hell of a difference. How similar will running 17" u-leggeras be?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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I just got 17' OZ Ultraleggeras in silver an love them. I was keen to replace my 17' Flame Spoke wheels that came on the car. I was looking for a lighter wheel that also looked better than the standard one that came with the car. I lost 6lbs per wheels so I'm very pleased.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Coolny29
I just got 17' OZ Ultraleggeras in silver an love them. I was keen to replace my 17' Flame Spoke wheels that came on the car. I was looking for a lighter wheel that also looked better than the standard one that came with the car. I lost 6lbs per wheels so I'm very pleased.
How significant was the difference that you felt? Can you elaborate on the performance increase in detail?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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i changed from webspoke 17s to ssr's and the difference was huge and largely unanticipated....eliminated torque steer, but the ride is more sensitive but not bad at all
 
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by flaco
i changed from webspoke 17s to ssr's and the difference was huge and largely unanticipated....eliminated torque steer, but the ride is more sensitive but not bad at all
ssr's? What weight and diameter were they?
 
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 06:36 AM
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17x7.5 SSR Type C RS Anthracite 13.7 lbs@
 
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by etalj
How significant was the difference that you felt? Can you elaborate on the performance increase in detail?
The car feels slightly quicker offline, just a tad. But what changed more was the handling as the car feels as if it tracks better. Just got them yesterday so I'll give you better input after this weekend.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 07:35 AM
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17x7.5 SSR Type C RS Anthracite 13.7 lbs@
Wow, very nice.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Coolny29
The car feels slightly quicker offline, just a tad. But what changed more was the handling as the car feels as if it tracks better. Just got them yesterday so I'll give you better input after this weekend.
Thanks, i appreciate it.

Flaco, those rims are 2.3 lbs a corner lighter than the Ultraleggeras, so i'll probably feel less of an effect :( But still, probably still worth it....
 
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