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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 05:38 AM
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Atleast they won't catch fire like Mg wheels
 
Old Aug 9, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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lookin good, jeff. i like those simple sleek dual 5 spokes.


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Figured I would post a updated picture.
 
Old Aug 9, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rally@StanceDesign
Yah, it's a new finish to mimic the wheels that volk recently added to their line-up. The idea is that they will look like the heat treated titanium that has become a popular finish among JDM engine and exhaust parts.

Just look like rainbow wheels to me



These are a nice style short of the rainbow color. Can anyone tell me what size these are? Do you have to get them in the rainbow finish?
 
Old Aug 9, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ArnGar
Can anyone tell me what size these are? Do you have to get them in the rainbow finish?
Not MINI fitment.....offsets are way too low to work on our cars. I was just posting a pic to show the finish.

They are Gram light wheels and are available in non-rainbow finish as well.
 
Old Aug 10, 2008 | 06:00 AM
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Yeh, that style wheel would never work on our Minis. I was at the dealer on Friday and saw some new JCW R56s--those things come with 12.5" brakes and the clearance between caliper and wheel spokes was down to about 3/8"--pretty impressive for a OEM setup. That'll limit the wheel options for sure!
 
Old Aug 10, 2008 | 06:10 AM
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I saw a JCW also. The brakes are large in diameter but they're like pieces of paper!
 
Old Aug 10, 2008 | 09:57 PM
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my wheels...
 
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 12:47 AM
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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 07:22 AM
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dude, that looks like my car (I posted the wheels just above your post) ...although my wheels are slightly different.
 
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by eR1c
my wheels...
those are a beaut reminds me of Volk RE30s
 
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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thanks Mini_Macky,

your wheels look pretty cool from the tiny image in your signature... do you have larger photos somewhere on NorthAmericanMotoring's site?
 
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhilGandini
Ti, steel (say CroMoly), Al--all alloys of course. For a given item (shape, size), steel weighs 1.0, Ti 0.5 and Al 0.33. So a Ti wheel would have to be about 2/3 the thickness of Al to weigh the same. Although a Ti wheel would cost a lot more than an Al one, it wouldn't offer any advantage over the Al wheel in strength or weight. I saw a set of those carbon fiber and Mg wheels on a Mosler--they aren't significantly lighter than a set of Mg wheels like those used on LM cars for example, but look cool. I can't imagine that a set of Ti wheels would look cool--especially since you can get Al wheels to look like anything these days.
In the end it's all material science. Al is the "best" material for consumer wheels, period.
If Al is lighter than Ti, why was Ti ever used for bicycle frames? My only guess is that it's stronger so it could be thinner, thus lighter overall.
My brother rode a Teledyne Titan back in the day.
 
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfgang80
If Al is lighter than Ti, why was Ti ever used for bicycle frames? My only guess is that it's stronger so it could be thinner, thus lighter overall.
My brother rode a Teledyne Titan back in the day.
Commercial (99.2% pure) grades of titanium have ultimate tensile strength of about 63,000 psi (434 MPa), equal to that of some steel alloys, but are 45% lighter.[5] Titanium is 60% heavier than aluminium, but more than twice as strong[5] as the most commonly used 6061-T6 aluminium alloy. Certain titanium alloys (e.g., Beta C) achieve tensile strengths of over 200,000 psi (1380 MPa).[20]
Wikipedia says heavier but more than 2x as strong. Hence it's use in super high end bike frames and most any form of "final output is all that matters" motorsports ie-F1.
 
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfgang80
If Al is lighter than Ti, why was Ti ever used for bicycle frames? My only guess is that it's stronger so it could be thinner, thus lighter overall.
My brother rode a Teledyne Titan back in the day.
"If Al is lighter than Ti" Huh? You doubt this? It's just a fact. But following on from that, yes, Ti bikes have tubes with significantly thinner walls than Al bikes have. Ti bikes were never especially light (except for a few ultra trick Merlins, etc), but have a wonderful "feel" to them -- something btw you *wouldn't* want in a car wheel!! The lightest bikes as a class now have carbon fiber frames.
See my website for my 12.75lb "ride it every day" bike.
http://gandini.unm.edu/PGpages/Interests/bicycling.htm

Dymag CF/Mag wheels weigh about 14lbs each, cost $10,000 a set. They are free with a $330,000 Mosler.
There are a few sets of forged Al wheels that weigh a couple of lbs more and cost around $2000 a set.

Like I said, Ti is not the best material for car wheels.

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Old Aug 11, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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16x7 Rota RB silver

Here're some Rota RB's 16x7, 40 et, 56.1 hub, 205/50/16 Pirelli Pzero Nero, stock ride height on 08 Mini Cooper. More photos in my gallery. Much more of a "classic" look.

 
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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DanQ: Those look VERY good on your car!
 
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:17 PM
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Yeh, DanQ--those are cool looking! Not my style, but dang they look good there. I guess you cant run more than stock brakes?
 
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhilGandini
Yeh, DanQ--those are cool looking! Not my style, but dang they look good there. I guess you cant run more than stock brakes?
He could run the R56 MCS brakes (equivalent of the JCW brakes from the R53). Those still fit under 16s

I love the look, DanQ. I've been dying to get a set of panasports. I used to run the konig replica of them
 
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by hemiheaded18
Wikipedia says heavier but more than 2x as strong. Hence it's use in super high end bike frames and most any form of "final output is all that matters" motorsports ie-F1.
not to mention NOBODY uses pure Ti for these apps. They are alloys...with significant aluminium and vanadium in the mix. A Merlin, Titan or Litespeed Ti bike uses common Ti alloys (3a/1.5v or something??).

I have a slice of pure Ti log sitting on my desk...it's a cylinder about 3 inches across and about the same long. It weighs several pounds... Makes a nice paperweight.
 
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PGT
I have a slice of pure Ti log sitting on my desk...it's a cylinder about 3 inches across and about the same long. It weighs several pounds... Makes a nice paperweight.
I have a fragged piston from a DT466 that dropped a valve that I use a paper weight.
 
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rally@StanceDesign
He could run the R56 MCS brakes (equivalent of the JCW brakes from the R53). Those still fit under 16s
some 16's, not all. The RB actually has poor brake clearance and probably won't work. Mach V is the one to ask as they have them and an r56

For hemi.... I have a K20 Crower conn rod Mach V welded up as a trophy for their charity car show...much nicer than a normal trophy LOL
 
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 12:32 AM
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what do you guys think about this!? I know it is a photoshop but the wheels are on their way!

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cheers

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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 05:43 AM
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Coen, that looks sweet.... just watch for speed bumps and pot holes!
 

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Old Aug 12, 2008 | 06:29 AM
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So quick question how wide of a rim can fit on the mini
 
Old Aug 12, 2008 | 06:36 AM
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I'm running pretty wide, 8" up Front & 9" in the Rear.
There's about a finger width between the back of the wheel and the inner wheel well liner.
So it really depends on the offset, running a 3 piece rim can allow a bit more if you run 2" lips, you will end up with more poke... but it's possible..

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