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Suspension m7 Coilover First Impressions

Old May 9, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CynMini
1. No warranty, no purchase. I know they have a warranty but I can't seem to get an answer as to rebuildability or how much or if one corner can be replaced
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Originally Posted by DrPhilGandini
If the lower shock mount were to fail, what would you predict would happen? I presume the rear shock is not a structural member of the rear wheel location system?
That rear corner would drop like a rock and would be resting right on the wheel/tire.
You are correct that it doesn't locate the wheel assembly, as long as the force from the lower shock mount breaking doesn't effect the other three points, you should be able to get out of harms way, although with a lot of noise.

Personally, I don't think you have to worry. Randy has had these on his car for a while with no issues, and he drives like a mad man.
 

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Old May 9, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CynMini
Because we have a right to know! Buyer beware.
I don't quite get why you would even consider these coils if you find them so questionable. Why not just move on to something else that suits your tastes/budget/quality standards? Repeating the same questions doesn't seem to be getting you the answers you desire.
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Mini Fireman
I don't quite get why you would even consider these coils if you find them so questionable. Why not just move on to something else that suits your tastes/budget/quality standards? Repeating the same questions doesn't seem to be getting you the answers you desire.
pppffftttt.... HE'S THINKING LOGICALLY.... OSTRASIZE HIM!!!



p.s. I think the quote in my sig applies here.
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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I'm with you about everything except that in bold...it's a hobby and it's an expensive one, but the TT is mis-appropriated Mini money.

Originally Posted by DrPhilGandini
1. You carry your own warranty
2. Expect to work on your car a *lot*
3. Know you'll hear sounds that don't seem right most of the time
4. Be prepared to annoy people by going over speed bumps really slowly
5. Spend a lot of time waiting for the next track day, or canyon run
6. Save up to buy your wife something really fine (I had to buy her an Audi TT)

cheers,
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by meb
...but the TT is mis-appropriated Mini money.
What's even worse is that because I work on my car, she thinks I can work on hers! And if there's one way to rub salt on that wound -- that I had to buy her a Vdub -- it's to be forced to work on one. I always deflect the request by muttering something about an extended warranty...

anyway, back to regular programming
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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hey m7 Ive got a deal for you!

how about ill test your product for free? All you have to do is send me a set and we are good to go ;]
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mini Fireman
I don't quite get why you would even consider these coils if you find them so questionable. Why not just move on to something else that suits your tastes/budget/quality standards? Repeating the same questions doesn't seem to be getting you the answers you desire.
Yes. That's where I'm at now, moving on and considering something else. You hit the nail on the head for what people should do, but the internet controversy is sometimes too hard to pass up (guilty).

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Old May 9, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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I would like to address the weak weld argument......

Have you ever looked at the stock struts, I guess not because the weld is identical to ours with one huge difference, the material in the stock strut
is less then half the thickness of ours, so the chance of the material in the stock unit could fail fairly easy at first glance, but reallity is.... it doesn't.

Stock unit is mig welded, ours TIG welded.

Do you really believe we would put out a product that doesn't meet or exceed
what previously was on the car. You also always say how much you like Randy and my self, but I have no idea who you are....

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Old May 9, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by M7
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Do you really believe we would put out a product that doesn't meet or exceed what previously was on the car. You also always say how much you like Randy and my self, but I have no idea who you are....

Peter
Ah, you're making me laugh, Peter! Now that's a great line.
And really, I'm not worried. I'm going to a track day this Sunday (yes, Mother's Day!) and will get a chance to test out that weld...
cheers,
 
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Old May 9, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by M7
I would like to address the weak weld argument......

Have you ever looked at the stock struts, I guess not because the weld is identical to ours with one huge difference, the material in the stock strut
is less then half the thickness of ours, so the chance of the material in the stock unit could fail fairly easy at first glance, but reallity is.... it doesn't.

Stock unit is mig welded, ours TIG welded.

Do you really believe we would put out a product that doesn't meet or exceed
what previously was on the car. You also always say how much you like Randy and my self, but I have no idea who you are....

Peter
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I guess I thought you would have remembered the watch thread. I am the big watch guy. And after thinking about it, I should have asked about the strength of the weld before I posted that it looks unsafe, I apologise. I haven't moved on because there isn't a set of coilovers that have all the features that I want. At this point the only thing I am worried about is the quality and long term reliability of these units. I'll stop posting my questions because Im not here to **** people off, I'll just sit on the sidelines and wait it out. Time will tell if I should buy these or not.
 
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Old May 11, 2007 | 05:57 AM
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A couple of pics just taken to better show the height:

 
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Old May 11, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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From that profile shot, you're not running that much lower than me! I'd say you're lower at front by 3/4" at most, but only about 1/4" at rear, maybe 1/2". Those photos by Stoopid Girl at the Dragon sure showed you a whole lot lower!
Looks great, love the lip...
 
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Old May 11, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DrPhilGandini
From that profile shot, you're not running that much lower than me! I'd say you're lower at front by 3/4" at most, but only about 1/4" at rear, maybe 1/2". Those photos by Stoopid Girl at the Dragon sure showed you a whole lot lower!
Looks great, love the lip...
It's funny how pics lie. It does seem to be lower in real life than in those pics and that was my impression as soon as I looked at them before posting.
 
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Old May 11, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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It's low... but it looks oh so damn sexy.
 
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Old May 12, 2007 | 11:02 PM
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Man, that is beautiful!!!! Where did you get that spoiler lip???
 
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Old May 12, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RacerXSPF
Man, that is beautiful!!!! Where did you get that spoiler lip???
Thanks. Way from Way Motor Works got it for me.
 
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Old May 17, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Now that i have actually gotten a minute to chill out from work and traveling, i will be posting my impression on the suspension, after putting 1,000 freeway miles, countless dragon miles, and countless city miles on it.

Look for that coming soon...
 
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Old May 17, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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Can't wait for degylogik's review -- especially the Dragon part!
I have had mine for 3 weeks now, aligned and corner balanced. I settled on 2/5 clicks F/R.
I took the car for a track day on Sunday. A short and tight course well suited to smaller, lower-powered cars like the MINI. Although I have much to learn, and I am very much on the steep part of the curve, the car behaved very well with no concerns in the suspension department. I am sure it will take me a long time to get to the limits of the suspension, and I need racing rubber and racing brake pads before I can go much faster and discover those suspension limits.
For comparison, I was circulating consistently at 1'48" compared to two (!) Ariel Atoms the fastest of which was doing 1'40"+ ish. A young guy with MiniMania.com's mule (blue with orange livery) was circulating sub 1'40" by a few seconds I guess.

btw, that's my next car...!
 
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Old May 22, 2007 | 07:45 AM
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Ariel Atom, love the side impact protection.
 
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Old May 30, 2007 | 05:29 AM
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Still working on the review.

Interesting note though, in order to run 15" wheels you will need to bend down the brake line holders on the front of the shock body. otherwise they will contact and grind into either the wheel or the tire. this is with 42 and 38 offset too.

Wheels are Kosei K1s
 
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 03:25 PM
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I know it's been years but any updates?
 
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 12:47 PM
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M7 speed does not carry these anymore, unless you are getting a set used.
 
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