How adjustable is the rear camber in the 05-06 cars? Do they have different control arms that allow for adjustment? If so, can one swap those into a 02-04 car?

 

Good luck with the group buy guys. Peter must be confident these new pates are gonna work well if he is offering them.

My personal opinion is I won't be burned again. I had the old plates and the lack of customer support, acknowledgement of a problem from H-sport, and total frustration with a clunking rusting car after 10 miles of use prevents me from ever buying their products again.

 

Hear, hear!

 

Hi Peter. So if I put on H-sport springs, will these camber plates be all I need to adjust the camber to be approximately what it is stock (and I really don't know what that is...) for all 4 wheels? My JCW is an 06, so I'm guessing the rear camber will be adjustable enough? Any insight is appreciated.

If the above is the case, I might be interested in the group buy... just want to verify that these camber plates will work with H-Sport springs and FSDs (i.e. not coilovers only) and are fine for street use...

Thanks!

 

Hi Blammo....

Your 06 will have the capabillity of adjusting the rears to either the stock setting or if you wish to dial in some extra negative camber. But remeber when you lower a car, the rear will automatically give you X-amount of
negative camber and pulling some out is recomended to minimize tire wear.

As for the front, the camber plates will allow up to -2 degree camber with the H-Sport plates + Koni FSD shocks, Which is plenty for spirited driving/track day use.

For hardcore full out track use, coil-overs must be used for up to -3.8 camber.

Peter
Team M7
562-608-8123

 

Peter, thanks for the response. I guess my only questions are:
1) The camber plates will allow me to adjust my front camber to be close to stock (i.e. to dial out some of the negative camber that results from lowering)...? I don't do track days, so I'm primarily looking to offset the negative camber that results from lowering, so I don't blow through my tires in 5000 miles...
2) These camber plates are fine for street use...? I know H-Sport makes a few different types (e.g. "sport" and "competition" camber plates), and I'd rather not get something that's going to be abusive on the track.

Thanks again, and hopefully I'll be joining the group buy shortly... BTW, is it possible to get the SRP discount if I've already ordered them from you guys?

 

Peter,

What's the status of this group buy?
Are you going to post it in the Vendor Group buy thread, or are you keeping it on the down low?

Joe

 

Just a bomp to see if the group buy is still happening... I just emailed Peter, and will post back if I hear from him...

 

Okay, finally got an email from Peter @ M7 -- apparently the group buy is still on. He said to give him a call if you have questions (his number is above)...

I'm thinking I'll be getting these plates after I've talked with him, so just a bump for those still interested.

 

Hi Guys...

I got a fair amount of emails, responding to this group buy. Please call
us here at the office so we can get all the particulars from you....

peter
Team M7
562-608-8123

 

when i lower my car with M7 springs, i'll obviously be expecting an increase in negative camber. Will this help handling? Or should i have BMW align it back to stock?

 

If you are doing springs you should be able to get alignment back close to spec with the adjustment in the stock control arms in the rear. Front camber plates are really for those of us with enough of a "car problem" that we track a lot or AutoX and need to be able to make adjustments from our daily driving setups to track setups ourselves.

They are overkill for a non-trackie. You should get an alignment about 100 miles after installing springs though. I would not have it done at the dealer though. They will give you un-ending grief about a modified car. Just ask around locally for a good private alignment shop. The price will be way better too. I paid $63 for a 4 wheel alignment on mine at a private shop when the dealer wanted $200!!!

 

Just got these plates yesterday, and they look to be very well-built. I like the double layer plate for strength, and the larger area for better force distribution. I got the spring perch for 2.5" coils.

When I have time, mabye next weekend, they will mate-up with Bilstein PSS9's, with H&R coils (2.5" ID, 6" free length, 350 in-lbs). Apparently I can go out to -4 deg camber with this type of set-up! I'll go to -3, and -2 in the rear though...

Oh, there is an install manual with these plates, and it seems to be very thorough, with descritive photos, including directions on how to correct any mushrooming. I might have missed it, but I didn't see any torque specs though. I'll report back after the install.

 

thanks for that

I have the car problem too. I'm gonna get some plates. Will install them when i chuck my springs in. My rear camber is much more negative than the front. Don't know why, but it is....

 

Tony B,
Did you happen to get those torqueing specs for the adjusting bolts on the camber plates. I just installed mines last night and I torqued them down at 40 pounds, its a M10 bolt so torqueing specs is 40 pounds. What do you think?

 

Not home at the moment to see my notes, but I'm reasonably certain that it's 45 ft-lbs.

From recollection:

Strut tower nuts (3) = 30 ft-lbs
Lower strut carrier bolt = 70-80 ft-lbs
Strut shaft nut = 50-60 ft-lbs

I Sharpie such things and inspect them whenever I have reason to pop the hood...

 

Thanks Tony B,
By the way are you having any rubbing of your springs at -2.0 camber in the front, and what line on the adjustment plate are you at?

 

no need to torque the strut center nut - when it's full down, it's down.

 

With the barrel spring of the PSS9, no rubbing at -2.0. With the Webb camber plates that I'll be selling here in a bit, I was able to get up to -3.0 with the barrel spring. I now have linear springs (2.5" diameter) on my front PSS9s, and I have no idea what my camber is because I have not gone for an alignment...