Suspension Which Coilovers?
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Originally Posted by ScuderiaMini
this thread is going sideways
Someone lock this thread.
My good intentions aside, this is no longer about personal/subjective evals of coilovers systems the comment writer has used. It is a debate. Not what I intended, but typical of NAM.
Thanks for all the input. Will let those of you whom care to know, know what I do end up getting.
#52
03-07-2006, 06:15 AM
Originally Posted by K9MINI
ok....tell about Megans race history Meb. I ask this because Bilsteins were on the Corvette ZR-1 that broke the 24 hour land speed record 174mph average over 24 hours.
Then tell me about the thorough street testing that led to a product being released with numerous failures on the first installs.
They do look nice.
You want me to dig up valving specs? Ok I will get the Bilstein specs and you get the Megan specs.
Again I didn't have to cut a hole in my body after removing interior pannels so I could adjust my settings. Do you still really think that the Megans were designed as a MINI specific piece? Have fun with your 12 year MINI perforation warranty now that you made a great place for road salt to enter.
You bought what you bought and I got something different. I just think mine are better quality. You think yours are better so in 50k miles we should come back and have a real world discussion about expected life span. Enjoy your set up and I will enjoy mine. If you are willing I will let you drive mine and I will drive yours sometime in the spring.
Well back to the airport so I can be near the Foam Fire truck
Then tell me about the thorough street testing that led to a product being released with numerous failures on the first installs.
They do look nice.
You want me to dig up valving specs? Ok I will get the Bilstein specs and you get the Megan specs.
Again I didn't have to cut a hole in my body after removing interior pannels so I could adjust my settings. Do you still really think that the Megans were designed as a MINI specific piece? Have fun with your 12 year MINI perforation warranty now that you made a great place for road salt to enter.
You bought what you bought and I got something different. I just think mine are better quality. You think yours are better so in 50k miles we should come back and have a real world discussion about expected life span. Enjoy your set up and I will enjoy mine. If you are willing I will let you drive mine and I will drive yours sometime in the spring.
Well back to the airport so I can be near the Foam Fire truck
You can drive mine any time you like - preferrably at the track.
Comparing valving and spring cycling etc is a proposed future act with an unknown outcome. My beef here is with folks making judgements about a product they have no experience with, and that is it. Further, the two systems discussed are completly different - based soley on the type of springs.
A new system comes along, the vender asks us for design input, follows up on our suggestions, builds it, has a problem, fixes it and all those folks with it that I have talked with are extremely happy. Durability is an unknown, but I'll have 60K and a dozen track days on whatever I buy within a year - I havn't purchased anything yet. The Corvette wasn't riding on PSS9s, one of the subject systems being discussed.
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03-07-2006, 10:27 AM
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This has been really amusing, but... 
back to coilovers...
I thought I had a satisfactory setup with just HSports but the ride is really starting to get to me. Pretty rough. From what I remember, the stock springs were not much better, still rough on small bumps, but the stock handled large bumps better than the HSports.
I'm looking into a system that will maybe see a track day or two a year, but mostly for street comfort and the ability to change to track ready with a couple twists for an event or mountain twisties.
The PSS9, from what I have read and looked at, is the clear choice for my application. Helix's price is awesome on it, and it would cost as much as new wheels and tires, which I was about to do anyway.
I would do the FSDs, but I really love the look of the drop with HSports and I don't want to go back to stock springs.
The JCWs are really reasonably priced, for OEM parts, and I can order them for $730 shipped off ebay ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT ) Do the JCW units even compare to aftermarket units?
Any advice is welcome?
back to coilovers... I thought I had a satisfactory setup with just HSports but the ride is really starting to get to me. Pretty rough. From what I remember, the stock springs were not much better, still rough on small bumps, but the stock handled large bumps better than the HSports.
I'm looking into a system that will maybe see a track day or two a year, but mostly for street comfort and the ability to change to track ready with a couple twists for an event or mountain twisties.
The PSS9, from what I have read and looked at, is the clear choice for my application. Helix's price is awesome on it, and it would cost as much as new wheels and tires, which I was about to do anyway.
I would do the FSDs, but I really love the look of the drop with HSports and I don't want to go back to stock springs.
The JCWs are really reasonably priced, for OEM parts, and I can order them for $730 shipped off ebay ( http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT ) Do the JCW units even compare to aftermarket units?
Any advice is welcome?
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Originally Posted by sandtoast500
The PSS9, from what I have read and looked at, is the clear choice for my application. Helix's price is awesome on it, and it would cost as much as new wheels and tires, which I was about to do anyway.
Even Helix has raised their price. They would not be able to honor the $1580 that was listed on the website yesterday, and if you look today the price is much higher.
I went with the H&R's. Probaby stiffer than the Bilsteins but for $600 difference they will work great for me. Will show some pics once I get them installed.
Kudos to Johnathan at worldone performance for running these down for me and getting me a great price.
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When are we installing them?
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Originally Posted by scobib
Oh, and I have a hard time believing you'd get much help with problems from an ebay purchase.
Just my .02 cents
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Originally Posted by scobib
I bought my Bilstein SP's from that guy on eBay - he smoked everyone else's price... shipped fast. Warranty is through Bilstein anyway, not the dealer...
You never know, but I see them go all the time on eBay for $1400-1500...
You never know, but I see them go all the time on eBay for $1400-1500...
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