What's the offset on those Hamman wheels SMG?

 

randy, my guess of the offset is 43....

on 17x7 or 17x7.5 wheels, better use 205/40/17 or 215/40/17...45 will just give u a headache......i can take mine coz i really love the performance of those tyres.....

i also noticed one thing odd on my car......i measured the coil height on both of my rear struts....they happen to be the same height. But when i measure the height from centre cap to fender, i found out that rear left is 4mm higher than rear right.

is this normal, randy???
i'm seen a CLK & M3 like that too......is it a european car thing?? :???:

 

Do you have a righthand drive car over there? If not, my guess would be that it is corner balanced, and your weight is the reason for the height on the left side. Honestly, it shouldn't be different if that isn't the case (the corner balance).

Randy

 

yes i hv a right hand drive car.....

when i'm not in the car, the rear right is still lower than the rear left.... :???:

actually i noticed that when my car is facing uphill with handbrake on....

 

If it isn't a corner balance issue, I would adjust the coilovers for ride height, not threaded body difference - but that is strange. The H&Rs worked out correctly with the threaded body equating to ride height. I'll let you know if the LEDAs work that way as well.

Randy

 

>>sleepless - are you sure thats the part rubbing???
>>mines are all over the place.....maybe roads in hk are way more bumpier than in the states ....
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>>SMG ADVICE : for those who of you who havn't lowered their mc or mcs but are going to, try not to use ANY 45 series tires on any 17" wheels....
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Yes, those are the parts that rub plus a spot at the top/center. Looking at the picture of what you trimmed off I think we've both trimmed about the same amount of inner liner. I also trimmed some of the outer fender flare; which you can see in my pics.

I still get some occasional rubbing in the rear. I also got a little rubbing in the front entering a steep driveway. I'll look at it tonight to see where it is still rubbing.

While I think your suggestion to use 40 series tires will help somewhat, I think the main problem is that aftermarket wheels use much smaller offsets than stock to push the wheels out. Consider that the stock S-lites have 50mm offset and our wheels are 42 and 43; granted they are also a half wider. So, I think that if one were to get 7" rims with something closer to 50mm offset would have no rubbing; but those are pretty hard to find in the aftermarket. So, I'd think 7" wheels with 205 rubber would be a safe bet with lowering the car even when they are at 42 to 45mm offsets.

Sleepless

 

sleepless - going down steep driveway will rub like mad for the fronts.......see what i've done to my front yesterday:



ride height



that should help a bit.....and i also trimmed my outer fender long time ago.......but of not much help....

the other problem is that my R tire is very easy to melt so that all the melted bits get stuck onto the inner fenders ..

when they dry off, it's like i hv a thicker inner fender......i guess this problem will only applly to me and you should be fine.




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hamann wheels, diffuser, mats, pedals, hand brake, shiftknob, Yoko 215/45/17 a048R tires, kw v2 coilovers, phillips 8000k HID, magnocor 8.5mm wires

 

Update: It wasn't the front tires rubbing on the driveway, it was the front spoiler rubbing on the ground. Cool, I really didn't want any rubbing in the front.

Sleepless

 

I am waffling!

Should I...
Shouldn't I?

I can't decide!

 

i got that same decision taken care of by my wife...
she said "you can't lower the car...no way..
get the 18's they will look better anyway!"


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When I mentioned to my wife that lowering was on my list of mods she said "Lowering!?" and rolled her eyes (you know the way some wives have... makes you feel like you are a 12 year old idiot).

But my indecision really has to do with the extent of inconvienence I am willing to put up with at my age (which is a youthful 50). Can I deal with rubbing, with speedbumps and driveway scraping on my daily driver, all for what is essentially an asthetic modification?

The Salesman at The Tire Rack said that the H&R springs would work with my tires and wheels without rubbing, but I am not sure how honest he was being. Dan won't answer my question in the Wheel and Tire forum.

So, I waffle. I have lowered a few cars in my time, and I know it is reversable, but...

I probably need to call and chat with Randy. I need sage counsel.

 

notpaddyhopkirk -

What is the width of your wheels and what is the offset? What size tires did you put on your car? I can probably tell you with reasonable certainty if you will get rubbing if you can provide that info.

The H&R's might be for aesthetics for you, but they are for performance for some of us. For that reason, living with or fixing tire rubbing is worth it. Both the wider tires (215 in my case) and the lowering make a big difference at the track. Despite having to butcher the inner lining of my 3-week old MCS, I'd to it all again


Sleepless

 

>>When I mentioned to my wife that lowering was on my list of mods she said "Lowering!?" and rolled her eyes (you know the way some wives have... makes you feel like you are a 12 year old idiot).
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>>But my indecision really has to do with the extent of inconvienence I am willing to put up with at my age (which is a youthful 50). Can I deal with rubbing, with speedbumps and driveway scraping on my daily driver, all for what is essentially an asthetic modification?
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>>The Salesman at The Tire Rack said that the H&R springs would work with my tires and wheels without rubbing, but I am not sure how honest he was being. Dan won't answer my question in the Wheel and Tire forum.
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>>So, I waffle. I have lowered a few cars in my time, and I know it is reversable, but...
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>>I probably need to call and chat with Randy. I need sage counsel.
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Here's my number - 720-841-1002 :smile:

 

>>What is the width of your wheels and what is the offset? What size tires did you put on your car? I can probably tell you with reasonable certainty if you will get rubbing if you can provide that info.<<

Sleepless,
I have ASA J5s in 18 x 7.5
Offset is 42mm

Tires are Yokohama Parada Spec2s

Here is a photo:



Thanks!
Eric

 

I have 205/45-17 and no rubbing what so ever

 

my front bumper never hv contact to the road......its when i go down a road and then turn at around 60-70 km and the front wheel will rub......but it's better now as i shaved off more inner fender.

ryhtomit - is your car lowered?

notpaddyhopkirk - is your car lowered too? are those stock setup? nice wheels.
are those 215/35/18?

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hamann wheels, diffuser, mats, pedals, hand brake, shiftknob, Yoko 215/45/17 a048R tires, kw v2 coilovers, phillips 8000k HID, magnocor 8.5mm wires

 

how do you like the parada-spec2's? I am due for a new set of tires after 8k and like yoko's I have the A520's they are good on the hwy but tend to push the front during hard cornering (why im due for new ones)

 

no lowering here I haul tools during the week and kids on the week ends.

 

>>Sleepless,
>>I have ASA J5s in 18 x 7.5
>>Offset is 42mm
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>>Tires are Yokohama Parada Spec2s
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>>Thanks!
>>Eric

If the tires are 215/40x18 they will rub when lowering the car using H&R springs. I have no doubt about that. If they are the 215/35x18 then you may get lucky and have no rubbing; but I'd guess you'll have a little bit of rubbing. These are not only shorter than my 215/45x17 by .6 inches but they also have a narrow tread by .5 inches. I trimmed off about a .25 of an inch so you are going to be very close to not rubbing is my estimation if you have the 35 series tires.

Pete

 

101% agreed.

 

There you go, the two self-appointed tire rubbing experts have spoken

No word yet from the sage though

 

The Sage and I spoke today...

He agrees that there would be some rubbing in the rear, but that a little minimal trimming should take care if it.

I am weighing my options and looking at my Mod money right now!

I will let you all know. Thanks for all the great feedback!

 

>>The Sage and I spoke today...


I like that nickname!

 

Once lowered, should the car be taken in for an alignment?

 

>>Once lowered, should the car be taken in for an alignment?

There's nothing you can change but the toe - and it stays neutral after you lower it.

No alignment needed, but you do gain some negative camber - not necessarily a bad thing

Give me a call if you have any other questions.

Randy
720-841-1002