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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 01:05 AM
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H&R? Eibach? or something else?

I'm planning to lower my 10 Clubman..
I need some help on picking lowering springs..

I have noticed many people went with H&R.
My friend suggested me Eibach but
I have found something like this too.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321215760175?redirect=mobile
some help here please...
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 05:32 AM
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NM, Vogtland should be thrown in the mix.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 06:25 AM
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Not on these specific cars, but if you're just looking for a slight drop for looks and a bit of cornering, I've had fantastic luck with Eibach Pro-Kit springs. They are a mild drop so they're still very street friendly when it comes to bumps and inclines. Any lower and scraping is going to be a much more likely issue.

Also, keep in mind, it's not a cheap throw some springs on kind of thing usually. You're going to want new struts. Factory struts are not made to be used with anything lower than stock spring. You will greatly reduce the life of your struts, resulting in a very rough and bouncy ride. Also, you will notice a great improvement in performance AND ride quality going with a strut designed specifically for lowering springs on your MINI (such as Koni Yellows).

Also, again I'm not sure about these cars specifically. But there has also been a performance strut available for most cars I've worked on that isn't adjustable and therefore not as expensive as the Koni Yellow, also suitable for lowering a small bit. But I will say the adjustable Koni Yellow's are a fantastic strut. Being able to dial them down tighter when you want to really throw the car around, the softer when you want the best ride they can provide is s nice. (though adjustment isn't exactly a quick 1 minute thing).
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by lfc99ko
I'm planning to lower my 10 Clubman.. I need some help on picking lowering springs.. I have noticed many people went with H&R. My friend suggested me Eibach but I have found something like this too. Video Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/321215760175?redirect=mobile some help here please...
H&R springs will go lower than Eibach, NM, and TSW's. H&R's are the ones I'm going with later in the winter.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 06:56 AM
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I'm not saying that the springs on the eBay link are junk, but I would be skeptical of any product that does not have a manufacturer associated with it.

It's really hard know what kind of quality they are and what other people have experienced with the use of the product.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 07:03 AM
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I would not trust myself with a no-name product as important as suspension components. Get a known Brand with quality products. DO NOT cheap out on suspension. It's your ride quality, handling, and safety. Any of the name brands mentioned so far are going to perform in every category, better than some knock off or no-name.

I stand by the recommendation that if you're lowering the car more than 1/4" from stock height, on nearly ANY car, you replace the dampers with something made for it. Stock dampers are going to blow much sooner and ride/perform much worse the entire time.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 07:09 AM
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^+1.... & cut or get shorter bumpstops to maintain suspension travel. Good coilovers, however, would be best, if your budget allows.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 08:11 AM
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^+1.... & cut or get shorter bumpstops to maintain suspension travel. Good coilovers, however, would be best, if your budget allows.
I wouldn't even go that far depending on his usage. If someone is looking to seal up a bit of wheel gap on their DD for aesthetic reasons, a 1-1.5 inch static drop is a perfect compromise in comfort, a bit of performance and looks IMO.

Coilovers are a performance product. A quality set is greatly adjustable for PERFORMANCE reasons. I would never tell someone to spend $1500-3000 on a set of dampers/coils if they simply want to make the car a bit lower for looks. That doesn't make sense and wastes so much of the function those coilovers are able to produce.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 05:27 PM
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Thank you guys for replies.

Yea.. definately not going with the cheap ones.

I'm lowering just for looks so not buying Koni...

I will be going with Eibach. H&R springs drop too much.

Again, thank you guys.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 06:01 PM
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lowering springs and stock dampers.... sounds like a rough ride and shortened strut life.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 06:28 PM
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InjectedGT you are definitely correct.

I have NM springs on stock dampeners and I think the ride is rough and bumpy, (I've been discussing this on another thread). When I first did this it was purely for looks and not performance reasons. Now I want the performance too so I'm planning on putting in Koni Yellows before Christmas.

That being said, I'm glad that I did this in a multi-step process so that I can compare the difference. Also I had a shop install the springs for me, this time I'll do the Koni's myself.

To the OP: You'll like the Eibach, they make great stuff. And it will look sooo much better than stock. To me the ride is rougher but livable.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 07:35 PM
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I would avoid the H&Rs as I've had too many issues with vibrations and loss shock travel.
And sine you have a Clubman I would avoid the Eibachs. The clubman weights more in the rear and the Eibachs tend to compress more.
These are reasons why I use the NM springs, as they specifically made them for the Clubman.
http://www.waymotorworks.com/nm-engi...rings-r55.html
 
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Old Oct 17, 2013 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by WayMotorWorks
I would avoid the H&Rs as I've had too many issues with vibrations and loss shock travel. And sine you have a Clubman I would avoid the Eibachs. The clubman weights more in the rear and the Eibachs tend to compress more. These are reasons why I use the NM springs, as they specifically made them for the Clubman. http://www.waymotorworks.com/nm-engi...rings-r55.html
Avoid the H&R's even with Koni's or basically with the OEM struts?
 
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