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Suspension Sway bar allowed in stock class for Solo Autocross?

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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 04:38 AM
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My personal opinion. Why let an outside agency control what you mod on your car. Mod what you want and drive the ***** out of it in what ever class you fall into.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Sacred Disorder
My personal opinion. Why let an outside agency control what you mod on your car. Mod what you want and drive the ***** out of it in what ever class you fall into.

The "outside agency" is the SCCA, the biggest and most organized group of racers in the US. You CAN just mod what you want, nothing stopping you. But if you throw even one stupid part on your car that bumps you into a faster class, you will be eaten alive, "***** out" driving or not
If your goal is not to win and just have fun, ya, mod what you want. On a local level you may even be able to win some events.

At the national level I cannot even begin to express how fast these people are, to win you better MAX your car to the class rules and drive at a SUPERIOR level.

Most of us want to drive in a class that we can compete well in, within our budget (it gets expensive) and where we know the other cars are more or less the same speed.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by nom nom
If your goal is not to win and just have fun, ya, mod what you want. On a local level you may even be able to win some events.

At the national level I cannot even begin to express how fast these people are, to win you better MAX your car to the class rules and drive at a SUPERIOR level.
To put some perspective on what a National level driver can do...A multiple year DS champ in my regional will beat the other DS Minis by 2-3 seconds easy. A couple of the Mini drivers can get within 1-1.5 seconds of him on a really good day. If I am with 4-6 seconds, I'm happy!
 
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Eddie07S
I am not sure what "sports springs" that you are referring to. I believe, if your sway bar measurements are accurate, that you already have the sports springs as I think you have the sports suspension. I am not sure how to verify this, but you might want to check what you have and not buy the same springs twice. Or am I missing something here about the way your car is right now

As for the front sway bar, you will need fully unbolt it, including the lower suspension arm at the back bushing. There is also something about disconnecting the steering rack. Then, I believe from there you just lower it. There is much more to it than that but that is the basic stuff. You should do a search for a DIY instruction if you want to do this.
Basically the talk is about this setup, the JCW "red" springs specifically. Per the stock class rules they are legal and should be a slight advantage over the standard or sport springs. But the problem, as mentioned before, is in order to run the springs you have to run ALL of the kit.

Thanks for the tip on the front bar, that looks like fun Saturday
 
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by nom nom
The "outside agency" is the SCCA, the biggest and most organized group of racers in the US. You CAN just mod what you want, nothing stopping you. But if you throw even one stupid part on your car that bumps you into a faster class, you will be eaten alive, "***** out" driving or not
If your goal is not to win and just have fun, ya, mod what you want. On a local level you may even be able to win some events.

At the national level I cannot even begin to express how fast these people are, to win you better MAX your car to the class rules and drive at a SUPERIOR level.

Most of us want to drive in a class that we can compete well in, within our budget (it gets expensive) and where we know the other cars are more or less the same speed.
I understand the ways and means of SCCA. I miss the **** out of it and cant wait to return to the states and start up again. I just think its rediculous when people don't do mods that they want to because of SCCA. Then again I have just as much fun working on the car as I do driving it.
 
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